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December 17, 2003 Dec. 17--WASHINGTON--The Central Intelligence Agency has been chosen to lead what could be a difficult, months-long interrogation of deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday, although Hussein will remain under the control of the U.S. military and the military will play a role in his questioning.
1. They made a calculation that it would antagonize Saddam's Sunni bretheren so it was'nt worth it.
2. They may have felt other methods were more effective. Many of the AQ prisioners are religous zealots and maybe it was felt we had no other way to get the information other them waterboarding, etc where as with Saddam and his meglo-maniacal tendencies he was easier to maniopulate for information.
3. By the time Saddam was captured he may not have had valuable, perishable intel that needed to be immediately extrtacted. Many of the terrorists did.
Your implication that the fact we did not subject Saddam to the same interogation methods as we did AQ shows that those methods are ineffective is false.
1. They made a calculation that it would antagonize Saddam's Sunni bretheren so it was'nt worth it.
2. They may have felt other methods were more effective. Many of the AQ prisioners are religous zealots and maybe it was felt we had no other way to get the information other them waterboarding, etc where as with Saddam and his meglo-maniacal tendencies he was easier to maniopulate for information.
3. By the time Saddam was captured he may not have had valuable, perishable intel that needed to be immediately extrtacted. Many of the terrorists did.
Your implication that the fact we did not subject Saddam to the same interogation methods as we did AQ shows that those methods are ineffective is false.
However, the top interrogation experts all say torture that doesn’t work:
Army Field Manual 34-52 Chapter 1 says:
“Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear.”
A declassified FBI e-mail dated May 10, 2004, regarding interrogation at Guantanamo states “[we] explained to [the Department of Defense], FBI has been successful for many years obtaining confessions via non-confrontational interviewing techniques.” (see also this)
Brigadier General David R. Irvine, retired Army Reserve strategic intelligence officer who taught prisoner interrogation and military law for 18 years with the Sixth Army Intelligence School, says torture doesn’t work.
A former FBI interrogator — who interrogated Al Qaeda suspects — says categorically that torture does not help collect intelligence. On the other hand he says that torture actually turns people into terrorists.
However, the top interrogation experts all say torture that doesn’t work:
Army Field Manual 34-52 Chapter 1 says:
“Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear.”
A declassified FBI e-mail dated May 10, 2004, regarding interrogation at Guantanamo states “[we] explained to [the Department of Defense], FBI has been successful for many years obtaining confessions via non-confrontational interviewing techniques.” (see also this) Brigadier General David R. Irvine, retired Army Reserve strategic intelligence officer who taught prisoner interrogation and military law for 18 years with the Sixth Army Intelligence School, says torture doesn’t work.
A former FBI interrogator — who interrogated Al Qaeda suspects — says categorically that torture does not help collect intelligence. On the other hand he says that torture actually turns people into terrorists.
I think I'll take the experts word on this issue as opposed to yours.
BTW...There were no WMD's!
Yeah...There were no WMD's. And I think we kind of had that one figured out by the time we caught him.
Your OP asks why we did'nt "Torture" Saddam. I gave you three very legitimate calculations as to why it may have been decided not to do so.
Now you change the subject by citing the fact that many top interogation experts believe "torture" does'nt work. Well obviously somebody in the feild believed waterboarding would work or we would'nt have done it to the AQ detainees. I know you'd like to think Bush and Cheney would eat babies for breakfast everyday if they could get away with it, but they did'nt agree to authourize the waterboarding, etc. of the AQ prisoners to get their jollies, they did it because they beleived it was needed get information neccasary to protect the country.
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