U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-28-2009, 08:46 PM
 
3,554 posts, read 7,624,908 times
Reputation: 2346

Advertisements

NewtoCA asked;
Quote:
How do you differentiate conservation from the Carter sentiments?
Well it wasn't the "Carter sentiments", it was the Republican argument against Carter. But we know the Republican plan has worked out so well, right?

Every house I ever owned in Texas, (about 75 of them) had INSUFFICIENT insulation in the attic, where over 90% of the heat gain originates. It wasn't until the '90s that builders started putting in R40 or so, and I'm not sure it was required, I just saw it in some. Each house that I purchased I upped to attic insulation to R40 or so, added ridge and soffit vents (when I re-roofed) and put solar "screens" on all south and west facing windows.

On average my electric bills (not just mine, but my tenants' bills) were about 1/2 to 60% of those of my neighbors in comparable houses. There was no "suffering" in my houses, just smart building.

During the Enron induced (not really a) electricity "shortage" in CA there was a lot of shouting on right wing radio that "it's all their fault, they haven't built a new power plant in 30 years". Of course that wasn't true and did not take into account expansions of existing plants. One thing that CA had done though was CONSERVE. There were city and county programs to add insulation, change to low flow toilets (pumping water is about the number 3 consumer of electricity in CA) and similar energy saving programs. IIRC the state at one time claimed that these programs had PREVENTED them from having to build several power plants.

A final word on nuclear, which everyone (except perhaps the nuclear energy trade group) generally agrees is the most expensive form of electrity. At one time Houston Lighting and Power was getting about 10% of its electricity from the South Texas Nuclear Plant. But its investment in that plant was about NINETY PERCENT OF HL&P's capital.

golfgod
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-28-2009, 09:14 PM
 
4,102 posts, read 5,163,093 times
Reputation: 1256
Quote:
Originally Posted by ergohead View Post
They haven't finished cleaning up Hanford.

Nuclear Safety Columbia River at Risk (http://www.oregon.gov/ENERGY/NUCSAF/HCleanup.shtml - broken link)
Apples and Oranges - educate yourself. More liberal propaganda.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-28-2009, 09:19 PM
 
23,839 posts, read 22,417,932 times
Reputation: 9406
New nuclear power plants are quietly being planned behind the scenes. I can say this without hesitation...I have performed the airspace obstruction analyses for the proposed sites in every quadrant of the United States as part of the work I do. That's about all the information I can divulge, but it's real and its coming to a neighborhood near you.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-28-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
14,013 posts, read 26,328,354 times
Reputation: 7130
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
New nuclear power plants are quietly being planned behind the scenes. I can say this without hesitation...I have performed the airspace obstruction analyses for the proposed sites in every quadrant of the United States as part of the work I do. That's about all the information I can divulge, but it's real and its coming to a neighborhood near you.
Good, hope you are correct.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-28-2009, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
14,975 posts, read 15,934,952 times
Reputation: 4583
Nuclear power is not the way to go...solar/wind power is. The risks are far too high with nuclear.

Just to be clear...I am a Republican saying this.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-28-2009, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
14,013 posts, read 26,328,354 times
Reputation: 7130
Quote:
Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok View Post
Nuclear power is not the way to go...solar/wind power is. The risks are far too high with nuclear.

Just to be clear...I am a Republican saying this.
I partially agree with you, but don't believe it can generate enough to fulfill future power needs. I think it could reduce the nuclear need a bit, but not eliminate it.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-28-2009, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
19,745 posts, read 35,210,242 times
Reputation: 15950
In reality, nuclear power would be the best option at the moment, and I say this regardless of what any to the Democrats or Republicans in Congress have say about it. Just look at Japan and France, which use nuclear power plants.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2023, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top