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Old 04-28-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Looks to me that the Republicans are shooting themselves in the head with silver bullets and stabbing themselves with stakes through the heart (personally I would like to sprinkle them with Holy Water just to finish off the job). As for not understanding the American People... look at the polls, read the angst filled reams of commentary from Republicans lamenting the self-marginalization of the GOP.

Just a reminder you made the same arguments before the election and got your head handed to you in a basket... you would think that you would learn from past errors.
Ouch! You've got a rep coming Ovcatto +1
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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Specter: "I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate"

i.e. I want to win re-election and if I need to switch parties to do so, then so be it..
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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Specter: "I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate"

i.e. I want to win re-election and if I need to switch parties to do so, then so be it..
Yep, I agree, but that's what politicians do: Run for election. The few remaing GOP members could get a clue from this, that is, if they could put their egos aside for a moment.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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I find it hard to fault Specter, although guys like him and Liebermann might want to try to reform their parties instead of abandoning them. Still, the GOP is a joke and a half. But now there is no practical check on this administration.

How hard is to emigrate to Australia or New Zealand?
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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../..I just don't see a big turn out in '10. The young democrats and black voters got their man (Obama), most of them are done.
On the contrary SNL, the fact that they "got their man" may well have energized them for several election cycles. If there were voters out there who felt that their vote didn't matter, this watershed event may well have changed their minds.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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Snowe: GOP Has Abandoned Principles; Specter Switch "Devastating"

Chuck Hagel, how about it? We got room for one more
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I'd be happy to give him a ride to the airport.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Specter: "I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate"

i.e. I want to win re-election and if I need to switch parties to do so, then so be it..
That's exactly what he said, and he wasn't even that subtle about it. Specter, along with Dodd have 1 more year left in their political careers; how they enjoyed their ride.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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Looks to me that the Republicans are shooting themselves in the head with silver bullets and stabbing themselves with stakes through the heart (personally I would like to sprinkle them with Holy Water just to finish off the job). As for not understanding the American People... look at the polls, read the angst filled reams of commentary from Republicans lamenting the self-marginalization of the GOP.

Just a reminder you made the same arguments before the election and got your head handed to you in a basket... you would think that you would learn from past errors.
Check the trend since the election. Obummer has lost some thirty points and the dems in congress have lost the 7 or 8 points they had on the GOP and then some.

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_ballot/generic_congressional_ballot - broken link)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/53_say_next_president_likely_to_be_a_republican (broken link)


Looks like you're simply wrong.

Last edited by momonkey; 04-28-2009 at 02:00 PM..
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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^ and it doesn't really matter even if all the Dems sat home in 2010 since they have a 79 more Dems in the House and 60 in the Senate with Lieberman caucusing with the Dems.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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On the contrary SNL, the fact that they "got their man" may well have energized them for several election cycles. If there were voters out there who felt that their vote didn't matter, this watershed event may well have changed their minds.
Historically, the party controlling the White House almost always loses seats in an off year election. 2010 will probably be no different and if the economy is the same or worse the Republicans will win big.
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