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Old 04-28-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Well one thing for sure is that the Dems will not have that 60 vote majority for long. Republicans will no doubt pick up senate seats in 2010.
You don't follow politics much I see... the Republicans have a lot more seats up for grabs than the Democrats...
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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If you think that, then you are clueless about how the PA Democratic Party is run. Spector is well respected amongst Democratic voters in PA, in the 2004 race Spector received 20% of Democratic supporters of John Kerry and won handily over Rep. Joe Hoeffel. Second, as I mentioned before, I refurse to believe that Spector didn't switch over without the promised support of the DNC and the state party for his re-election.
MSNBC is reporting that the Dems promised to support his run for re-election.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Think what you want, but in reality, it changes a whole hell of a lot. With a filibuster-proof 60 votes, Dems won't even need to consider fast-tracking healthcare reform using reconciliation. They can just pass it. That has major ramifications, since bills passed through reconciliation have ten-year limits. Bills passed with 60 votes have no time limit.

Big, huge, major difference.
No it changes nothing he has always been a rino a republican in name only.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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If you think that, then you are clueless about how the PA Democratic Party is run. Spector is well respected amongst Democratic voters in PA, in the 2004 race Spector received 20% of Democratic supporters of John Kerry and won handily over Rep. Joe Hoeffel. Second, as I mentioned before, I refurse to believe that Spector didn't switch over without the promised support of the DNC and the state party for his re-election.




Again your lack of understanding of PA politics is glaring. While Philadelphia is a major voting block you can't win a state wide vote without the surrounding suburban counties, Montgomery, Bucks, Delaware and Chester all of which have moved into the Democratic column, and Pittsburgh.
You are partially correct. You do need the support of Bucks and Montgomery, especially, and to a lesser degree, Delaware County. Pittsburgh could go 55/45 to the Republican and it wouldn't be enough to offset the massive Philly metro area. Philadelphia county goes 85-90% to the Democrat every time. It's virtually impossible for the remainder of the state to counter this unless you get higher support for Republicans in Pittsburgh, as well as the NEPA area.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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They'll shoot themselves in the foot just like they did in '93.

Looks to me that the Republicans are shooting themselves in the head with silver bullets and stabbing themselves with stakes through the heart (personally I would like to sprinkle them with Holy Water just to finish off the job). As for not understanding the American People... look at the polls, read the angst filled reams of commentary from Republicans lamenting the self-marginalization of the GOP.

Just a reminder you made the same arguments before the election and got your head handed to you in a basket... you would think that you would learn from past errors.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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MSNBC is reporting that the Dems promised to support his run for re-election.
Thanks, although that means that I am out of a job... oh well, I guess I can find something else to do.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Looks to me that the Republicans are shooting themselves in the head with silver bullets and stabbing themselves with stakes through the heart (personally I would like to sprinkle them with Holy Water just to finish off the job). As for not understanding the American People... look at the polls, read the angst filled reams of commentary from Republicans lamenting the self-marginalization of the GOP.

Just a reminder you made the same arguments before the election and got your head handed to you in a basket... you would think that you would learn from past errors.

You can thank the lame stream media for that.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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If you think that, then you are clueless about how the PA Democratic Party is run. Spector is well respected amongst Democratic voters in PA, in the 2004 race Spector received 20% of Democratic supporters of John Kerry and won handily over Rep. Joe Hoeffel. Second, as I mentioned before, I refurse to believe that Spector didn't switch over without the promised support of the DNC and the state party for his re-election.


Only after he made it out of the primary by the skin of his teeth against Toomey.

There are still many good Pennsylvanians who are continuing their support with Toomey, the problem is that number is being offset, demographically, as you noted in your last post, by new arrivals in Montgomery and Bucks counties. Many of them are Philly transplants, others come from New Jersey, where they take their socialist voting alliegances with them. Northampton and Monroe county new arrivals from NY and NJ continue to further pollute the Pennsylvania voting calculus.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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1 - Specter is a Democrat in disguise anyway..so let's just make it official. He was 1 of only 3 Republicans that voted for Obama's screw-all-of-us package.
2 - Don't matter because next year..all of us Independants are voting all of them out anyway.

Enjoy it while you can..
Good Riddance!

I wish he would take McCain, Snowe, and Collins with him. The 2010 VOTE IS COMING and so is the RECKONING! Independents must restore sanity to government.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Cali
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You don't follow politics much I see... the Republicans have a lot more seats up for grabs than the Democrats...
Republicans have 18 seats up for grabs, Democrats have 17 up for grabs. I guess you see one more seat as a big margin.
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