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Old 04-28-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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Associated Press
04-28-2009

The issue of reverse discrimination first reached the nation's highest court in the 1970s, when a student with good grades named Allan Bakke accused a University of California medical school of twice denying him admission because he was white.

Strict racial quotas were unconstitutional, the court said — affirmative action was not. But that ruling far from decided what many considered the big-picture issue: Does protecting minorities discriminate against the majority?

More than 30 years, and scores of lawsuits later, the question remains unanswered. Meanwhile, more Americans came to believe that affirmation action is no longer necessary, and that instead of leveling the playfield for minorities, it unfairly punishes whites.

Reverse discrimination suits flourish - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

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Old 04-28-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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Associated Press
04-28-2009

The issue of reverse discrimination first reached the nation's highest court in the 1970s, when a student with good grades named Allan Bakke accused a University of California medical school of twice denying him admission because he was white.

Strict racial quotas were unconstitutional, the court said — affirmative action was not. But that ruling far from decided what many considered the big-picture issue: Does protecting minorities discriminate against the majority?

More than 30 years, and scores of lawsuits later, the question remains unanswered. Meanwhile, more Americans came to believe that affirmation action is no longer necessary, and that instead of leveling the playfield for minorities, it unfairly punishes whites.

Reverse discrimination suits flourish - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com
Probably not if you are white and gay.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Probably not if you are white and gay.


Anyway...as to the OP...yes affirmative action does punish whites (especially white males). It IS racism and needs to be abolished.

White males are actually not a majority - we are only about 35%-40%. It's not right to protect 60-65% above the rest. Neither race nor sex should be factors at all in most employment decisions, college admissions decisions, etc.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:10 PM
 
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Anyway...as to the OP...yes affirmative action does punish whites. It IS racism and needs to be abolished.
I was joking. AA is BS.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Associated Press
04-28-2009

The issue of reverse discrimination first reached the nation's highest court in the 1970s, when a student with good grades named Allan Bakke accused a University of California medical school of twice denying him admission because he was white.

Strict racial quotas were unconstitutional, the court said — affirmative action was not. But that ruling far from decided what many considered the big-picture issue: Does protecting minorities discriminate against the majority?

More than 30 years, and scores of lawsuits later, the question remains unanswered. Meanwhile, more Americans came to believe that affirmation action is no longer necessary, and that instead of leveling the playfield for minorities, it unfairly punishes whites.

Reverse discrimination suits flourish - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com
I personally do not have a problem w/affirmative action. Scenario: let's say there are 2 candidates for a job, 1 white male & 1 black male. Both are extremely qualified, both a personable, charming & get along great w/the interviewer/board. I ask you: which do you think will get the job in that scenario, where both candidates are EXACTLY the same?
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:30 PM
 
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Scenario: let's say there are 2 candidates for a job, 1 white male & 1 black male. Both are extremely qualified, both a personable, charming & get along great w/the interviewer/board. I ask you: which do you think will get the job in that scenario, where both candidates are EXACTLY the same?
It would depend on whether or not the company has it's own internal affirmative action program, I guess, or it would come down to personal connections and affiliations.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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I personally do not have a problem w/affirmative action. Scenario: let's say there are 2 candidates for a job, 1 white male & 1 black male. Both are extremely qualified, both a personable, charming & get along great w/the interviewer/board. I ask you: which do you think will get the job in that scenario, where both candidates are EXACTLY the same?



The one with (*)(*)
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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I personally do not have a problem w/affirmative action. Scenario: let's say there are 2 candidates for a job, 1 white male & 1 black male. Both are extremely qualified, both a personable, charming & get along great w/the interviewer/board. I ask you: which do you think will get the job in that scenario, where both candidates are EXACTLY the same?

no 2 candidates will ever be exactly the same.

it would come down to who the interviewer liked more.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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The one with (*)(*)
Have no idea what that means.
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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I learn so much by participating on this board. I used to participate on the Democratic Underground site, but I found that I learned almost nothing there. It was mostly just bashing Republicans and even Democrats who didn't hold the politically correct views that the hardcore left promulgated.

I posted this story because it was only about a week ago that I posted my question asking who belongs to a minority group that has faced widespread discrimination. I rolled my eyes when I saw a number of posters say they felt discrimination for being straight, white, Christians, males, or a combination of all four. I even stopped posting on the thread because I thought I had wasted my time with the question. When I saw the headline for this story, however, I thought, "Wow. Maybe they were right."

Anyway, I apologize for dismissing some of you in that thread. Sometimes people get so caught up in their own minority status (gay, in my case), they become blinded by it. Over the last few months here, I've become a lot more aware of the fact that there are many other worthy opinions to consider than my own.
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