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Old 04-29-2009, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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And what's stupid about saying that we are a country with values and morals?
Speaking of that, Obama opposes homosexual "marriage."
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:13 PM
 
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Speaking of that, Obama opposes homosexual "marriage."
Kind of a double edge sword... He goes on to say in this video clip that he doesn't promote gay marriage but does support gay rights afforded to them by the States. It's pretty much up to the States if they want to make Gay Marriage like Mass and recently Iowa and there will be others that will follow.

YouTube - Barack Obama on Gay Marriage
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:14 PM
 
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Lie.
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But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide."

Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban.
In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion.

And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04 (broken link)
/01/AR2008040102197.html

Opposed legislation protecting born-alive failed abortions
Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live. He insists that no restriction must ever be placed on the right of a mother to decide to abort her child.

On March 30, 2001, Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion. Obama rose to object that if the bill passed, and a nine-month-old fetus survived a late-term labor-induced abortion was deemed to be a person who had a right to live, then the law would "forbid abortions to take place."
Obama further explained the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not allow somebody to kill a child, so if the law deemed a child who survived a late-term labor-induced abortion had a right to live, "then this would be an anti-abortion statute."
Barack Obama on Abortion

Obama is lying about
his record!

Obama disengenuouise on infanticide

Delivery Nurse Describes
Obama's Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion
Delivery Nurse Describes Obama's Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion - [domain blocked due to spam]

Nurse's full story
CNSNews.com - Delivery Nurse Describes Obama’s Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=42688 - broken link)
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Kind of a double edge sword... He goes on to say in this video clip that he doesn't promote gay marriage but does support gay rights afforded to them by the States. It's pretty much up to the States if they want to make Gay Marriage like Mass and recently Iowa and there will be others that will follow.


YouTube - Barack Obama on Gay Marriage
He does not support or believe in homosexual "marriage," period. When asked if he personally favors homosexual "marriage," he says "no."
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:19 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Really
Than why does he think it is ok to let babies that survive partial birth abortions to die alone unattended in a closet is ok and humane and not torture to that baby?
Way to change the subject.. what no comment on the fact that Obama flat out said that waterboarding is torture? Do you realize how important that is?

Last edited by lamexican; 04-29-2009 at 11:51 PM..
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:20 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Speaking of that, Obama opposes homosexual "marriage."
What about waterboarding? Do you have any opinions on him flat out stating it?
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:22 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide."

Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban.
In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion.

And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04 (broken link)
/01/AR2008040102197.html

Opposed legislation protecting born-alive failed abortions
Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live. He insists that no restriction must ever be placed on the right of a mother to decide to abort her child.

On March 30, 2001, Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion. Obama rose to object that if the bill passed, and a nine-month-old fetus survived a late-term labor-induced abortion was deemed to be a person who had a right to live, then the law would "forbid abortions to take place."
Obama further explained the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not allow somebody to kill a child, so if the law deemed a child who survived a late-term labor-induced abortion had a right to live, "then this would be an anti-abortion statute."
Barack Obama on Abortion

Obama is lying about
his record!
Obama disengenuouise on infanticide

Delivery Nurse Describes
Obama's Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion
Delivery Nurse Describes Obama's Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion - [domain blocked due to spam]

Nurse's full story
CNSNews.com - Delivery Nurse Describes Obama’s Efforts to Stop a Law to Protect Babies Who Survived Abortion (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=42688 - broken link)
How about you start your own thread on abortion or whatever you want to talk about and comment on the topic at hand here?
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:47 PM
 
Location: toronto, Canada
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Well it only took eight turns this time to arrive at reductio ad abortionum. 11 for reductio ad lesbinum. Come on same sex haters, that's three in a row for the abortion hater crew. You've got to type faster on the keyboard if you want the title of grand reductio!
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:03 AM
 
Location: OUTTA SIGHT!
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hahaha best banter of the week...so far.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:03 AM
 
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He does not support or believe in homosexual "marriage," period. When asked if he personally favors homosexual "marriage," he says "no."
Promote or favor what's the diff? My video he uses the word promote and yours he says favor... He does believe in Gay Rights that are afforded to gays by the States...
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