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The golden rule only applies if you consider an embryo a "person." In the case of a "late term abortion", it is really only done if there is something developmentally wrong with the fetus. In another thread, a story was told of a major brain development issue found after 20 or so weeks, for example. In that case, if I were to have such a problem, and the low quality of life that would go with it, then, no, I don't think I'd be "glad I was born." The same could be said of a child who would be born into poverty and/or to a single drug addicted parent... Not EVERYONE in all situations are glad they were born.
Abortion is wrong. Those posters who say "if you don't like one, don't have one" and "her body, her choice"....you INCENSE me. What about the child?
If a woman said "I want to kill my 2 year old," you wouldn't say that's her right. So why a fetus? Many pro-choicers support legaliizing abortions even when the fetus is viable - late second trimester and third trimester. How digusting!
Pro-choicers...THE FETUS IS IN YOUR BODY, BUT IS NOT MERELY A BODY PART! IT IS NOT YOUR CHOICE TO KILL IT!
Abortion should at the minimum be a states' rights issue and Roe v. Wade should be overturned. 60% of people in my state...including well over half of WOMEN alone...are against it. Why do we have to allow the murders on our turf?
I also strongly agree with the posters who suggest that abortion is a means of absolving yourself from any personal responsibility. Everything is about "What I want, NOW!" Welcome to the times when instant gratification means more than anything else.
Abortion is illegal in the 3rd trimester unless to save the life of the mother or for SEVERE fetal defect.
If so many people in TX are against abortion, why is it #16 in abortion rate out of 50?
Abortion is illegal in the 3rd trimester unless to save the life of the mother or for SEVERE fetal defect.
I'm well aware of the laws...but on another thread on this forum awhile ago some posters were arguing that the laws should be changed to make abortions legal even then.
I'm only on page 2 of reading on this thread, and the answer is the same as it always is - IF YOU THINK IT IS WRONG TO HAVE AN ABORTION, DON'T HAVE ONE. Period. end of discussion. You aren't the one who has to live with your decision to abort. You aren't the one who will have to answer for it at the gates of heaven, so please, put your time and energy into worrying about something else!
I'm well aware of the laws...but on another thread on this forum awhile ago some posters were arguing that the laws should be changed to make abortions legal even then.
Show me. All I see if people saying it should not be be 100% banned in the third trimester so an MD can perform one if it is medically necessary to save the life of the mother
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Wrong again. A sperm cell is not an organism. It can't divide. It isn't a human being.
Masturbation is wrong according to the church because it misuses a gift from God meant for mutual sharing and turns it into a selfish act. But that's another topic, isn't it? We'll take that up next time when I feel like winning a debate in that arena as well.
So, by that standard naturally occurring nocturnal emissions are wrong?
I don't disagree with you. However, it is the liberal agenda that is inarguably pro-abortion. You call it pro-choice, but it's really pro-abortion, lets be honest here.
honest? I'm pro-choice. I AM NOT pro abortion. Never had one. Don't know that I could bring myself to do it. no one is pro abortion. Your statement is ridiculous!
I'm still trying to get a handle on what your moral compass is telling you. Who gets to have sex? Only people who want babies. Or people who are sterile. That, to me, seems the logical end of your propositions. That if anyone does not want to have children, for whatever reason, they should abstain from sex or should be sterilized. That is the logical extension of your responsibility argument, isn't it?
Not at all. Enjoy sex, it is a God-given gift to humanity for the continuation of humanity. But also keep in mind that there are responsibilities that may come with the decision to have that sex. Like I said before, the idea of "choice" is not so much an issue as is the persistance of those that utilize that "choice" as a means of abdigating personal responsibility. Simply put, if you do the deed, be ready to step up to the plate and take responsibility for your actions. Abortion should never be the reason to justify irresponsibility, and many of the posts here today seem to indicate that "think before you act" is not a realistic expectation. I happen to think differently.
I'm only on page 2 of reading on this thread, and the answer is the same as it always is - IF YOU THINK IT IS WRONG TO HAVE AN ABORTION, DON'T HAVE ONE. Period. end of discussion. You aren't the one who has to live with your decision to abort. You aren't the one who will have to answer for it at the gates of heaven, so please, put your time and energy into worrying about something else!
We view the child as a person.
Let me ask you this...if I fought for my right to kill my born child, wouldn't you fight against me having that right? Therefore, abortion is not something I will EVER just sit back and accept being allowed to occur.
You can say it's different and I'll admit, to an extent, it is. But don't you dare tell us we can't fight to end what we view as murder. Until (which I doubt you ever will) you see it the way you do, you can never understand.
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