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Old 05-11-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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This is from an article written in the LA Times.

"The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget."


I'm wondering just where does the federal government get off trying to upsurp a States decision. Is this a violation of the 10th amendment?
The federal government takes your tax dollars and the tax dollars from the states, (which is your money in the first place) and then tells you how your going to spend it. There is a reason we do not have a "centralized government" in this country, it's about time that the Obama admin comes to this understanding. This is no difference than what FDR did with the NRA (National Recovery Act) this was nothing more than price fixing by the unions at the blessings of the federal government.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It's not a violation of the 10th Amendment because the feds can impose conditions on money they give to states. They're not technically forcing California to do anything.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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It's not a violation of the 10th Amendment because the feds can impose conditions on money they give to states. They're not technically forcing California to do anything.
So is this a stimulous or is it a power play by the federal Government?
Are they trying to stimulate the national economy by giving money to the states? Or are they trying to usurp power to Washington?
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So is this a stimulous or is it a power play by the federal Government?
Are they trying to stimulate the national economy by giving money to the states? Or are they trying to usurp power to Washington?
I'm not saying I agree with what they're doing (I do NOT), but they are permitted to.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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It's not a violation of the 10th Amendment because the feds can impose conditions on money they give to states. They're not technically forcing California to do anything.
Since when does the federal government dictate to the states on their budgets? The federal government has no business in how the state budgets it money. This is nothing more that a power grab by Washington, and if California lets this happen to them, then its a short step to Washington running all states government, the states will bw nothing more than puppets of Washington.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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This is pure payback to the SEIU -which spent over $60 million to get obama elected.

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Officials in the governor's office say a politically powerful union may have had inappropriate influence over the Obama administration's decision to withhold billions of dollars in federal stimulus money from California if the state does not reverse a scheduled wage cut for the labor group's workers.

The officials say they are particularly troubled that the Service Employees International Union, which lobbied the federal government to step in, was included in a conference call in which state and federal officials reviewed the wage cut and the terms of the stimulus package.

"The involvement of a stakeholder in this kind of state-federal deliberative process is unusual at best," she said. "This was really atypical and outside any norm I am familiar with."
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Since when does the federal government dictate to the states on their budgets? The federal government has no business in how the state budgets it money. This is nothing more that a power grab by Washington, and if California lets this happen to them, then its a short step to Washington running all states government, the states will bw nothing more than puppets of Washington.
I know of one specific SC opinion on conditions imposed on federal funds allocated to states. It was ruled constitutional.

There could have been some more cases; I'm not sure.

I'm simply giving you the facts. Once again, I do NOT approve and I agree that the federal government should not dictate to California or any other state how to budget its money.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Obama is just paying back his i.o.u to the SEIU.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:32 AM
 
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This is plain and simple a power hungry play.
A better question is why did DODD and others not put stipulations to the monies given to the banks and how it was to be used?
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is plain and simple a power hungry play.
A better question is why did DODD and others not put stipulations to the monies given to the banks and how it was to be used?
Good question.
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