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you can make the marriage argument, but it doesn't really work. a gay man can't marry a man, a straight man can't marry a man. a gay man can marry a woman, a straight man can marry a woman.
That's the argument racists used against interracial marriage... a black person can't marry a white person and a white person can't marry a black person so all is equal! It's a bigot's argument... and why this a dumb thread.
you can make the marriage argument, but it doesn't really work. a gay man can't marry a man, a straight man can't marry a man. a gay man can marry a woman, a straight man can marry a woman.
BS logic. A straight man wouldn't WANT to marry another man. Your argument is like saying that Cuba has Democracy because all people have the equal right to vote for Fidel. It ignores the fact that some people DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR FIDEL - just as your silly defense ignores the fact that some people don't want to marry someone of the opposite sex - but rather a member of the SAME SEX.
I also notice you didn't address my answer to the original question - that is: a gay person cannot openly express his sexual preference and still keep his job in the military.
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a gay man can serve in the military. a straight man can serve in the military. I didn't notice you making a point. I am not anti gay marriage, I am anti institution of marriage. it's man made.
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BS logic. A straight man wouldn't WANT to marry another man. Your argument is like saying that Cuba has Democracy because all people have the equal right to vote for Fidel. It ignores the fact that some people DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR FIDEL - just as your silly defense ignores the fact that some people don't want to marry someone of the opposite sex - but rather a member of the SAME SEX.
I also notice you didn't address my answer to the original question - that is: a gay person cannot openly express his sexual preference and still keep his job in the military.
a gay man can serve in the military. a straight man can serve in the military. I didn't notice you making a point. I am not anti gay marriage, I am anti institution of marriage. it's man made.
Do you just refuse to read or do you have a problem with comprehension? He said that a gay man cannot proclaim his homosexuality in the military and remain. A heterosexual man can.
a gay man can serve in the military. a straight man can serve in the military. I didn't notice you making a point. I am not anti gay marriage, I am anti institution of marriage. it's man made.
Again, avoiding the issue:
A straight man can admit admit his sexual preference AND remain in the military, a gay man can't.
I do have to say though that your logic has some bazaar merit - the next time you or one of the other gaybashers makes the claim that gays want "special rights" (because they want to marry a member of the same sex) I guess I can just use your same logic to answer "gays don't want special rights - they want EVERYONE (even straights) to have the right to marry a person of the same sex".
So say, gays should be celebrated I guess - they are trying to increase the rights of EVERYONE (including all the straights out there).
And to think that straights like you just don't appreciate that.
What a bunch of ingrates.
Here they are trying to increase YOUR rights and you just don't appreciate it.
LOL
I'm done with this thread - your arguments are asinine and not worth the time to reply. I answered your original question and you simply ignore it.
You asked for a right gays didn't have - and I gave you one (the right to freely admit their sexual preference - not the right to freely marry a member of the opposite sex but the right to ADMIT THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE.
So, I answered, you ignored and deflected the discussion.
Sounds like you're being a troll.
I'm done.
Ken
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The right to be secure in their homes and employment without the fear of being fired or evicted for who they love... In many states in this country this can happen to gay people (just for being gay) and they would have no legal recourse.
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they have the right to feel safe in their house. it's called a 12 gauge. oh, and no one has the right to their job. I have always lived in at will states, where you can be fired for any reason at any time.
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The right to be secure in their homes and employment without the fear of being fired or evicted for who they love... In many states in this country this can happen to gay people (just for being gay) and they would have no legal recourse.
So housing, employment and marriage do not involve any rights? Sheesh. Could it be that you just have a hatred for gay people and would not take any rational answer?
And you think that shooting a marshall who is enforcing a lawful eviction of a gay person for being gay is a "right"? You are one warped person.
as for the rest of your statement, I have no clue what you are talking about. shooting a marshall? WTH are you talking about?
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So housing, employment and marriage do not involve any rights? Sheesh. Could it be that you just have a hatred for gay people and would not take any rational answer?
And you think that shooting a marshall who is enforcing a lawful eviction of a gay person for being gay is a "right"? You are one warped person.
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