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Old 05-02-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Agreed. But some people feel the absolute need to put a label on everything and force others into their ideology. I'm a libertarian moderate that leans towards liberalism... yeah, it's contradictory and kinda weird, but it works for me.
That makes no sense whatsoever. You could be a Democrat politician.

 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Republicans SERIOUSLY need to shed the tent revival conservatism and focus on issues that appeal to ALL Americans, like lower taxes, healthcare, immigration, fiscal accountability, etc, etc, etc. There are many people who would vote Republican because they are conservative on many issues that currently vote Democrat because the GOP is the party of Christian Dominionism and Old South ideology. Yes 75% of the nation is Christian but most of those Christians understand that this is a diverse nation that was founded on the principle of religious freedom and separation of church and state. If the current trend continues, I see the Republican party becoming a right-wing Christian party taking about 15-20% of the vote, and a split in the Democratic party between liberals and fiscal conservatives.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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Agreed. But some people feel the absolute need to put a label on everything and force others into their ideology. I'm a libertarian moderate that leans towards liberalism... yeah, it's contradictory and kinda weird, but it works for me.
i believe sometimes we forget that this country has 300 or so million people and there is a lot of grey area.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Be conservative. Shout it from the rooftops. Give people confidence. Do what we KNOW is right, and what has been PROVEN to work. Why on earth have we abandoned the proven formula for success. Bold unapologetic conservatism.
OK, so who is a good example out there of "unapologetic conservatism", and if that approach is really so effective, how come they're not getting anywhere?
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Isn't winning elections what matters? Are you saying that Republicans simply aren't fielding the right candidates?
of course winning is what matters. i think if the republicans put up a real conservative they would have had a better shot. instead they went middle of the road and lost.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The "far right" consists of people who want to shove the Bible down everyone's throats.

As a social moderate to moderate conservative, none of my political views are based on religion. Some (but certainly not all) may correspond to other's beliefs that may be based on religion, but they have logical points that are completely unrelated to religious beliefs.

As far as fiscal conservatism, I've come to a very clear conclusion that it is best for the economy and for everyone.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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Well then you must choose the one that most closely aligns with your personal beliefs.
in that case then i guess i'd call myself a conservative democrat. i'm certainly not a liberal.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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Republicans SERIOUSLY need to shed the tent revival conservatism and focus on issues that appeal to ALL Americans, like lower taxes, healthcare, immigration, fiscal accountability, etc, etc, etc. There are many people who would vote Republican because they are conservative on many issues that currently vote Democrat because the GOP is the party of Christian Dominionism and Old South ideology. Yes 75% of the nation is Christian but most of those Christians understand that this is a diverse nation that was founded on the principle of religious freedom and separation of church and state. If the current trend continues, I see the Republican party becoming a right-wing Christian party taking about 15-20% of the vote, and a split in the Democratic party between liberals and fiscal conservatives.
Darned good stuff! I agree all the way down the line with you.

All this religion stuff was NEVER an issue until about 1985 or so when Jerry Falwell had to stick his nose into politics. It's been crazy ever since and I'm delighted that religion seems to be fading as a force in politics. Before Falwell, we all went to church and sat by each GOP and DEM alike, then hurried home to see the Redskins. People used to sit around and discuss the similarities and differences of their various doctrines, but it was never like it is now, where now, if you're not with us then you're agin' us, now, it's "all or none" and now it's either "friend or foe." Too bad for all us.
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Old 05-02-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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Hey out there i agree with you! Most of the country is christian conservatives. Unfortunately i voted democratic this time because of george bush. In 2012 i will vote republican. Anytime anyone can vote against a person for standing up to her biblical beleifs, i will vote republican!
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:29 PM
 
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as an adult, we know the UN is nothing but a bunch of corrupt third world terrorists.
Do you think you might be just a little extreme in some of your views?
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