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Old 05-01-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You're misunderstanding me.

I don't demand it. I point out that people can't claim to follow true "Christian values" if they don't believe in everything condoned in the Bible.

I only bring it up to people who claim to have these alleged values or say you can't be moral without religion. Otherwise, I don't care what people believe in.
i didn't see where ms. california claimed that one can't be moral without religion. do you have a link?

also, doesn't the president presumably claim to follow these 'christian values' you're all het up about?
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:05 PM
 
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No, because none of them have ever claimed to be representative of true "Christian values". If they did, I'd quickly call them out on it. The truth is, nobody follows Christianity (or most religions for that matter) fully. Why? Because quite frankly, a lot of the ideas proposed or condoned in scriptures are completely insane. You don't murder disobedient children (Leviticus 20:9).
As a Christian, I have some difficulty reconciling verses like that but have you honestly considered what the world may have been like had people obeyed God from the beginning?
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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You're misunderstanding me.

I don't demand it. I point out that people can't claim to follow true "Christian values" if they don't believe in everything condoned in the Bible.

I only bring it up to people who claim to have these alleged values or say you can't be moral without religion. Otherwise, I don't care what people believe in.
You understand that as with everything written there is context, right?
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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she was asked for her opinion, and gave one that over half her state agreed with.

obviously, she must be destroyed.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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i didn't see where ms. california claimed that one can't be moral without religion. do you have a link?

also, doesn't the president presumably claim to follow these 'christian values' you're all het up about?
She didn't, but she did claim that she's against gay marriage because of her "Christian values".

Obama is no different.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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You're misunderstanding me.

I don't demand it. I point out that people can't claim to follow true "Christian values" if they don't believe in everything condoned in the Bible.

I only bring it up to people who claim to have these alleged values or say you can't be moral without religion. Otherwise, I don't care what people believe in.
Horse Pucky
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: 53179
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She sings about being honest about how she feels about marriage, it should only be between a man and a woman BUT when the subject of her obvious breast implants comes up, she has no comment.

SO I guess its OK to be honest and open about other peoples problems but she can't even admit she had breast implants.

She is a fraud.

You make no sense at all.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: 53179
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I wonder if Jesus would support Breast Implants.

He would most likely support it. I mean, he is all about making people happy..right?
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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As a Christian, I have some difficulty reconciling verses like that but have you honestly considered what the world may have been like had people obeyed God from the beginning?
I don't believe in any god, so you're asking the wrong person. I will say though that a god that would get angry over something as petty as eating a piece of fruit isn't worthy of worship, even if I believed in it.
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You understand that as with everything written there is context, right?
I'd say most Bible verses make the point clear enough and don't leave room for much interpretation.

The fact that so many people argue over what a Bible verse means shows that if your god does exist, he has to be one of the worst communicators in history.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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She didn't, but she did claim that she's against gay marriage because of her "Christian values".
then by your own logic, you shouldn't be bringing it up:

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I only bring it up to people who claim to have these alleged values or say you can't be moral without religion.
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Obama is no different.
maybe some liberal should start a thread about obama's outrageous christian hypocrisy..
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