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Is you're premise that Christians are zealots, and the GOP is only for Christians ? This is you're post in the gay republican thread.....(All of us except religious RW extremists welcome homosexuals just as we welcome everyone else. ). Evidently you already know the answer to you're own question. Just trolling trying to stir up a little anti-religious bigotry it seems.
No, I'm not. All I'm trying to do is question whether the Republican party is truly so much about religion and whether a significant number of Republicans are non-religious.
And don't call me anti-religious....I'm simply unwilling to have 100% faith and belief in something that cannot be proven. It cannot be proven whether there is or isn't a God and, thus, I've decided that the mystery is something I will have to live with.
No, I'm not. All I'm trying to do is question whether the Republican party is truly so much about religion and whether a significant number of Republicans are non-religious.
And don't call me anti-religious....I'm simply unwilling to have 100% faith and belief in something that cannot be proven. It cannot be proven whether there is or isn't a God and, thus, I've decided that the mystery is something I will have to live with.
The COUNTRY is about religion. Do you think if you were a Democrat you would be able to hide from it?
One of the funniest things about the dems on this board is their blind support for President Obama. I'm not anti-Obama by any means because I respect the office he holds, and that won't change. But the fact of the matter is, the dems on this particular forum love him because they think he's one of them. They conveniently ignore his opinions on issues such as gay marriage... If you didn't know, he's against it, and his reasons are religious-based. No matter how many times the dems here ignore it or try to deny it, that will still be the absolute truth.
America is still the greatest country in the world, and part of the reason is that almost all of us, Republicans and Democrats, do believe in GOD.
The COUNTRY is about religion. Do you think if you were a Democrat you would be able to hide from it?
One of the funniest things about the dems on this board is their blind support for President Obama. I'm not anti-Obama by any means because I respect the office he holds, and that won't change. But the fact of the matter is, the dems on this particular forum love him because they think he's one of them. They conveniently ignore his opinions on issues such as gay marriage... If you didn't know, he's against it, and his reasons are religious-based. No matter how many times the dems here ignore it or try to deny it, that will still be the absolute truth.
America is still the greatest country in the world, and part of the reason is that almost all of us, Republicans and Democrats, do believe in GOD.
And our country was founded based on Christian principles. I believe it's part of the reason we're so great.
The dems on the forum do seem obsessive over Obama. It's quite amusing.
And our country was founded based on Christian principles. I believe it's part of the reason we're so great.
Thats a dangerous thing to say here. A better way to put it is this country was founded on Judeo-Christian morals but not on the religion of Christianity. Most people of the era were Christians so thats why many Christian traditions have become so intertwined in American culture.
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I'm a Republican and have come to the conclusion that I could best be described as agnostic rather than Christian. Is there any place for us non-zealots in the GOP?
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Nice try, lib. The only people who will be fooled by this are people who deserve to be fooled.
Well, there's the answer to your OP.... apparently just raising the question, makes you a "lib" to the zealots out there!
BTW, noticed some folks had a few good definitions of a non-zealot conservative. I understand about the "Jesus loves you (unless you're Mexican, a Muslim, a homo, a liberal, poor, or a sexually active woman)" conservatives. Aka, "social conservatives."
But setting aside the issues with the social conservatives, how do you reconcile the differences between some of the other kinds of conservatives, often equally, um, "passionate" in their beliefs:
1. The "I'm a member of the corporate master-class and I'll kill you and burn your house down if I have to in order to maintain the social order," conservatives. Also known as "economic conservatives."
2. The "I watch Fox News and I like Republicans because they take my tax money and give it to rich white people instead of poor black people" conservatives. Aka, "NASCAR conservatives."
3. The "if somebody doesn't do something pretty damn quick the UN will take our guns and our women will be forced to mate with mud people," conservatives. Aka, "libertarian conservatives."
To put it another way, isn't the problem more about militant "extremists", than about "religion"?
And our country was founded based on Christian principles. I believe it's part of the reason we're so great.
The dems on the forum do seem obsessive over Obama. It's quite amusing.
Based on that, what exactly are you hoping to learn in starting this thread?
I have no problem with the dems here smooching Obama all over the forum. When we point out his views on things like gay marriage, they ignore them. But we know they read them, and we know they're aware of them. Every last one of them has to leave this forum everyday knowing that they are living a lie. And this has nothing to do with the President, since he has been honest about his views. The dems who post here are the ones who only respond to the things they want to respond to, and they aren't fooling anyone.
So if you're not one of them, and if you do appreciate our country's values, what is it that you're looking for here?
If you really are with us, then you're already on the right track. Our values are right where they should be, and when you take a look at some of the people here who are against what this country does stand for, consider the sources and be glad you're not one of them.
Based on that, what exactly are you hoping to learn in starting this thread?
I have no problem with the dems here smooching Obama all over the forum. When we point out his views on things like gay marriage, they ignore them. But we know they read them, and we know they're aware of them. Every last one of them has to leave this forum everyday knowing that they are living a lie. And this has nothing to do with the President, since he has been honest about his views. The dems who post here are the ones who only respond to the things they want to respond to, and they aren't fooling anyone.
So if you're not one of them, and if you do appreciate our country's values, what is it that you're looking for here?
If you really are with us, then you're already on the right track.
I guess I am trying to learn in this thread whether most people feel it is possible to be a non-religious Republican.
I personally know many Republicans who are both Christian and non-Christian, but am trying to figure out whether a broader group of people views the GOP as the "Bible Party."
And yes I am with you, I'm not switching to the other side.
Thats a dangerous thing to say here. A better way to put it is this country was founded on Judeo-Christian morals but not on the religion of Christianity. Most people of the era were Christians so thats why many Christian traditions have become so intertwined in American culture.
You are correct. Most of our laws, for better or worse, are actually based on Judeo-Christian morals.
I guess I am at least trying to learn in this thread if most people feel it is possible to be a non-religious Republican.
I personally know many Republicans who are both Christian and non-Christian, but am trying to figure out whether a broader group of people views the GOP as the "Bible Party."
And yes I am with you, I'm not switching to the other side.
The Republican party is a microcosm of the country in general, which already makes us the better party in a two-party system. The Republican party believes in certain values, but welcomes everyone. The Democrats, as I'm sure you have seen on this forum, do not welcome anyone who disagrees with them even a little bit. If you haven't seen that, I will be more than happy to provide plenty of examples.
At the end of the day, the party that wellcomes everyone will be the group that gets things done. This isn't our time in this country right now, but when the other side gets it wrong, people will be begging us to get it right again. That's a job we will take seriously, and I hope you'll be with us when that time comes. It's always better to be part of the group that puts things up than to be part of the group that tears things down.
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