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Old 05-04-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Bush, Cheney, etc. need to be prosecuted. Period.
For what?

Be specific - lay out the charges.

Don't give me a regurgitation of that loon, dennis "the menace" kucinich.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:20 PM
 
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I thought they impeached him for lying? And having bad taste in women! Come on, he was the 'effing POTUS and the best he could do was Monica? JFK scored Marilyn Monroe! Clinton? Monica Lewinsky. WTF?
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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For what?

Be specific - lay out the charges.

Don't give me a regurgitation of that loon, dennis "the menace" kucinich.
This is one for starters:

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The War Crimes Act of 1996, a federal statute set forth at 18 U.S.C. § 2441, makes it a federal crime for any U.S. national, whether military or civilian, to violate the Geneva Convention by engaging in murder, torture, or inhuman treatment.
The War Crimes Act of 1996: Bush, Cheney and the Boys could be Indicted under US Law
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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American intolerance of torture reaches back to its foundation as a sovereign nation. Our founding fathers and their intellectual compatriots had not forgotten the excesses and barbarism of the French
Revolution. They decided that, as a country, we would never allow such practices.

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
For what?

Be specific - lay out the charges.

Don't give me a regurgitation of that loon, dennis "the menace" kucinich.
Appears as if Bush and Cheney violated this federal statute.


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The War Crimes Act of 1996, a federal statute set forth at 18 U.S.C. § 2441, makes it a federal crime for any U.S. national, whether military or civilian, to violate the Geneva Convention by engaging in murder, torture, or inhuman treatment.

The statute applies not only to those who carry out the acts, but also to those who ORDER IT, know about it, or fail to take steps to stop it. The statute applies to everyone, no matter how high and mighty.

18 U.S.C. § 2441 has no statute of limitations, which means that a war crimes complaint can be filed at any time.

The penalty may be life imprisonment or -- if a single prisoner dies due to torture -- death. Given that there are numerous, documented cases of prisoners being tortured to death by U.S. soldiers in both Iraq and Afghanistan (see for example this report), that means that the death penalty would be appropriate for anyone found guilty of carrying out, ordering, or sanctioning such conduct.
The War Crimes Act of 1996: Bush, Cheney and the Boys could be Indicted under US Law
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:35 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Bush, Cheney, etc. need to be prosecuted. Period.

Unfortunately, everyone in Washington is so locked into their respective parties and will tolerate almost any behavior from the members of their parties. It's dispicable.

if you truly believe that statement, then obama needs to be prosecuted for his past drug use, fdr for keeping the USA in a depression and getting the USA into WWII, lincoln for not following the Constitution, wilson for his outright socialist activities and a whole slew of other things done by each and every president.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Looks pretty specific to me...
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So. SEAR training, what our very own military personnel go through...is torture?

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This is one for starters:
Where's the charge - and for what exactly?
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Salukifan1 View Post
American intolerance of torture reaches back to its foundation as a sovereign nation. Our founding fathers and their intellectual compatriots had not forgotten the excesses and barbarism of the French
Revolution. They decided that, as a country, we would never allow such practices.

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Constitution deals with people on US soil... Not Cuba
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So. SEAR training, what our very own military personnel go through...is torture?



Where's the charge - and for what exactly?
Uh, torture. Have you been in a coma for a few years? If so, I apologize and am including a link to bring you up to speed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/opinion/26wed2.html

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Amid all the natural and political disasters it faces, the White House is certainly tireless in its effort to legalize torture.
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