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Old 05-05-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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Nevada files voter fraud charges against ACORN - Kansas City Star (http://www.kansascity.com/444/story/1178222.html - broken link)

Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller and Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, both Democrats, announced the charges, stressing that there's no evidence that the phony registrations led to the casting of votes using fake identities.

The Nevada complaint alleges 26 counts of "Compensation for Registration of Voters," which it called a felony under state law.

"By structuring employment and compensation around a quota system, ACORN facilitated voter registration fraud in this state," Attorney General Masto said. She alleged that the group's training manuals "clearly detail, condone and, indeed, require illegal acts."

The complaint accuses Christopher Edwards, former field director for ACORN's Las Vegas office, of creating a "Blackjack" or "21+" system that awarded a $5 bonus to low-paid canvassers who brought in 21 or more completed registration forms in a day. It alleges that Amy Busefink, ACORN's deputy regional director, approved the scheme.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:42 AM
 
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Obama has a connection to ACORN!
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Providing incentive pay for the canvassers is IMHO not wrong or illegal. Many sales persons receive bonus pay for making the quota. Paying the voter to register is buying votes and legitimately illegal but I do not have any reason to believe an organization as smart as ACORN to make that mistake. Let’s see what happens in the trial even though this seems to be a political witch hunt.

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Old 05-06-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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Providing incentive pay for the canvassers is IMHO not wrong or illegal. Many sales persons receive bonus pay for making the quota. Paying the voter to register is buying votes and legitimately illegal but I do not have any reason to believe an organization as smart as ACORN to make that mistake.
In Nevada it is,
“In Nevada, it is unlawful for a person to provide compensation for registering voters that is based on the total number of voters a person registers,”
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Let’s see what happens in the trial even though this seems to be a political witch hunt.
The prosecutor is a Democrat.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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i suggest the manager of that ACORN office had better get a lawyer.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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i suggest the manager of that ACORN office had better get a lawyer.
Of course. It is simply a matter of a rogue ACORN office manager. This is going on all over the country, it is by no means an isolated incident. When will you realize that this just might be a part of the ACORN's modus operandi?
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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Of course. It is simply a matter of a rogue ACORN office manager. This is going on all over the country, it is by no means an isolated incident. When will you realize that this just might be a part of the ACORN's modus operandi?
To be fair, the only thing ACORN is being nailed on in Nevada is giving people a bonus for getting so many registrations, to me, thats not really "fraud", its just illegal.
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Of course. It is simply a matter of a rogue ACORN office manager. This is going on all over the country, it is by no means an isolated incident. When will you realize that this just might be a part of the ACORN's modus operandi?
Not just an office manager -

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Nevada files voter fraud charges against ACORN (http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090504/pl_mcclatchy/3226510 - broken link)
The complaint accuses Christopher Edwards, former field director for ACORN's Las Vegas office, of creating a "Blackjack" or "21+" system that awarded a $5 bonus to low-paid canvassers who brought in 21 or more completed registration forms in a day. It alleges that Amy Busefink , ACORN's deputy regional director, approved the scheme.
This goes much higher than local office staff. It's official ACORN policy -

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Nevada Files New Voter Registration Charges Against ACORN - Glenn Beck - FOXNews.com
[NEVADA SECRETARY OF STATE ROSS] MILLER: When we executed the raid on the ACORN headquarters here in Las Vegas, we came across thousands of pages of documents, e-mails. Within those documents, we found their company policy directive that outlined in — for their employees the fact that they were required to meet certain quotas and that these employees were expected to turn in 20 registration forms per day, otherwise they'd be terminated.

They also had in place a blackjack policy, as you mentioned, that gave bonuses if they met a certain quota.
Community organizing at its finest.
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Someone from ACORN will be on Glenn Beck tonight to proclaim how this is just a witch hunt and ACORN is the victim..
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Providing incentive pay for the canvassers is IMHO not wrong or illegal. Many sales persons receive bonus pay for making the quota. Paying the voter to register is buying votes and legitimately illegal but I do not have any reason to believe an organization as smart as ACORN to make that mistake. Let’s see what happens in the trial even though this seems to be a political witch hunt.
It doesn't matter what you think (to paraphrase The Rock). It's illegal under Nevada Law to pay folks to register people to vote. ACORN violated it and they are rightly being prosecuted. This is not a partisan issue although I'm sure the right wing will somehow blame this on Pres. Obama.
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