Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Our forefathers said that our inalienable rights were "Endowed by our Creator", yet many, many posters claim to be atheists. I know that it's hip and trendy to profess atheism right now and there are a lot of young posters here; but what say you about our rights?
It is a little scary that anyone said government!!
If that were the case, we would all be self-employed.
No, it doesn't. A person has a right to trade his labor for money, then use that money to buy things. For example, someone can trade a 1,000 hours of their labor for $10,000 and then buy a car.
So, not only do people own themselves, but they own the fruits of their labor (i.e. car). Now, I have no idea why you disagree. Do you think that you have a right to someone's car, house, computer, chair, ect?
The important thing to remember is that governments do not create rights. Whether you believe rights are absolute or not, they exist independent of government. I place a high value on non-aggressive self-determination of the individual. Is non-aggressive self-determination of the individual a right? I think so, even if my imperfect society doesn't recognize it as a right. If it's a right, does it stem from me or something greater/broader? I'd like to believe the latter; though concisely articulating why is beyond my ability.
The important thing to remember is that governments do not create rights. Whether you believe rights are absolute or not, they exist independent of government. I place a high value on non-aggressive self-determination of the individual. Is non-aggressive self-determination of the individual a right? I think so, even if my imperfect society doesn't recognize it as a right. If it's a right, does it stem from me or something greater/broader? I'd like to believe the latter; though concisely articulating why is beyond my ability.
Wrong. For example you aren't born with the right to vote, you are born with the right to life however. Not everything is a natural right.
attacking someone for their age and not their ideas is as powerful as attacking someone for their grammar and not the content of their post/ideas.
it is definitley ture that age does not impart wisdom.
if that were the case you would be wise enough to consider all perspectives and opinions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonrise
With all due respect, the biggest mistake that you made was admitting to everyone that you're 18. I can no longer take any of your posts seriously. I'm just being honest.
One can not be "tolerance", they can be tolerant, but as shown on a daily basis on cd liberal tolerance is America's greatest oxymoron. Why did you answer a post that was specific to another poster, anyway. He's a big boy. He can answer for himself.
Wrong. For example you aren't born with the right to vote, you are born with the right to life however. Not everything is a natural right.
Ok, this is true. What I should have said was there are two types of rights: those that governments create and those that exist independent of government. Obviously I was referring to the latter.
People should own their labor. The fact is, with the way capitalism is now, they don't.
I own my labor, I exchange it with my employer for money. How about you?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
