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I think the listening tours are a good idea. In theory. The problem is, who do they listen to? There are a thousand different opinions out there, a thousand different realities.
If they just listen to the people that reinforce the ideas they want to have reinforced, what good does that do?
Okay, I don't get this: Why are so many conservative Republicans upset about Cantor, Jeb and Co. doing listening tours? Doesn't it make sense to find out where voters are and then to court their vote--especially if your'e losing elections. Sure you can teach conservatism, but why can't you also listen to voters to tailor your message ? I could be wrong, but that's just the way I see it. It's politics.
Am I wrong on this?
Mackinac
Of course you're not wrong, and the answer is simple. They see it as a weakness. They believe you're expected to know all the answers in advance, through genetic programming or something. Most people would view that as a sign of deepseated insecurity. They see it as manliness and strength.
Okay, I don't get this: Why are so many conservative Republicans upset about Cantor, Jeb and Co. doing listening tours? Doesn't it make sense to find out where voters are and then to court their vote--especially if your'e losing elections. Sure you can teach conservatism, but why can't you also listen to voters to tailor your message ? I could be wrong, but that's just the way I see it. It's politics.
Am I wrong on this?
Mackinac
hahaha. Once Boss Limbaugh pointed out they should be teaching tours, the spokesperson for the "listening tour" instantly started saying "You know? These are really education tours."
Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh slammed the GOP’s “listening tour” re-branding effort, saying that the conservative movement does not need to listen to the American people. Rather, Limbaugh declared, “We need a teaching tour.”
Asked about Limbaugh’s rejection of the GOP listening tour today on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) did not take issue with Limbaugh’s remarks, saying only that the GOP’s objective was to help “educate the American people.”
Of course you're not wrong, and the answer is simple. They see it as a weakness. They believe you're expected to know all the answers in advance, through genetic programming or something. Most people would view that as a sign of deepseated insecurity. They see it as manliness and strength.
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Of course you're not wrong, and the answer is simple. They see it as a weakness. They believe you're expected to know all the answers in advance, through genetic programming or something. Most people would view that as a sign of deepseated insecurity. They see it as manliness and strength.
Yup, "just tell me what I wanna hear".... the same policy as Uncurious George!
Okay, I don't get this: Why are so many conservative Republicans upset about Cantor, Jeb and Co. doing listening tours? Doesn't it make sense to find out where voters are and then to court their vote--especially if your'e losing elections. Sure you can teach conservatism, but why can't you also listen to voters to tailor your message ? I could be wrong, but that's just the way I see it. It's politics.
Am I wrong on this?
Mackinac
You are correct, as long as that is what they are doing.
Conservatives just need to define their ideology, vision and principles, and convince people to adopt them as their own, and join us. They should not adopt the McCain philosophy of deciding which of their principles they need to discard to get votes, or be like liberal democrats and hide their ideology, so as not to scare away voters.
And this differs from Obama because? (Or Clinton and Gore for that matter)
What exactly is the argument here? That Democrats should also embark on "listening tours"? Because, yes, they should. Candidates who seek to represent the people in their constituency should know what issues those constituents are concerned about, and what they would like to see happen.
op- If they are really "listening", that is good. Both sides should do that. Problem is that probably the vocal minority alone may get heard and the silent majority and independents may be left out.
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