Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
What the other poster is trying to get you to understand is, if the GOVERNMENT is going to subsidize premiums, that are paid to a PRIVATE company - a system has to be in place for the government to know if you qualify for this subsidy -
A DUAL regulatory system.
Let me ask you this: Say your premiums exceed 10% of your income. Who are you going to apply to for your subsidy? Who is going to decide if you should get the subsidy?
Of course some government agency needs to determine who gets the subsidy.. but if you do away with medicaid and even medicare as we know it today, then this agency can take it's place and it's function is to determine subsidy on income.
Of course some government agency needs to determine who gets the subsidy.. but if you do away with medicaid and even medicare as we know it today, then those same agencies can then work at determining subsidies based on income.
You will not be doing away with Medicare (Medicaid is state - we don't have Medicaid here in AZ)
Medicare is paid out of a seperate trust fund - from the taxes taken from your paycheck -
You will not be doing away with Medicare (Medicaid is state - we don't have Medicaid here in AZ)
Medicare is paid out of a seperate trust fund - from the taxes taken from your paycheck -
MEDICARE IS NOT GOING AWAY
Medicare is intertwined with SSI
Oh my god ... GD.. I did not say it was GOING AWAY
Jesus.. I'm talking about if we adopted a similar system as the Swiss system that medicaid and medicare as it exists today and as we know it
would not need to exist
I know we are not adopting a similar system to the Swiss.. I know we are not making insurance mandatory at this time.. I know I know I know..
Doesn't mean that I can't argue the merits of doing such a thing.
Of course some government agency needs to determine who gets the subsidy.. but if you do away with medicaid and even medicare as we know it today, then those same agencies can then work at determining subsidies based on income.
TM TM TM.....OUR gov't is the one running Medicare and Medicad.
That is the fact that has to be worked with.
Over my adult life I have thought of many idealistic plans as have, I'm sure, half the thinking people in the US....as you are doing now (with the exception of who's going to pay for it
They have never...not once....included liberal government paid for or subsidized programs.
Once headed down that road there is no fixing to be done other than giving up individual choice completely and settling for what whoever is currently in power hands out.
That may sound dramatic to you but let me tell you....we're so old now, none of this will affect us much. But I still shudder to think of it for the future of this country.
You are young and interested enough....put all your energies into effecting a reversion BACK to a less dependent population....not more of one.
You will not be doing away with Medicare (Medicaid is state - we don't have Medicaid here in AZ)
Medicare is paid out of a seperate trust fund - from the taxes taken from your paycheck -
MEDICARE IS NOT GOING AWAY
Medicare is intertwined with SSI
Yeah, you do - AHCCCS is Arizona's medicaid program, and based on what I've read, may be one of the models for what the Federal govt. wants to do overall as it has been quite successful since instituted.
MEDICARE is not going away. It is going to remain, as it is, under any new system.
How's that TM? Clear enough for you?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
.. not when IF 
