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Old 05-15-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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or is it the same story, answering 4 different questions?
lol you wish
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Dick Cheney? (now that would be a lovely couple)


I find that too much attention is being put on Pelosi, while many of the facts get covered up.

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I would normally agree but she's the one that was trying to get everything started. She wanted heads on platters. Now that we know she was involved? Hardly too much attention. If anything she's trying to shift attention away from her.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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In other words, there is no "record" of the briefing, it's "memos of record" that "summarize" the "best recollections" of those involved.

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Great, then Pelosi has no defense. Just ask GWB, the CIA never lies.

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As anyone who ever saw Alberto Gonzalez testimony "recollections" from people who are on the hot plate are often, cloudy and uncertain.

golfgod
Pelosi has often been cloudy and uncertain. So, now she can join Gonzalez.

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I would normally agree but she's the one that was trying to get everything started. She wanted heads on platters. Now that we know she was involved? Hardly too much attention. If anything she's trying to shift attention away from her.

There is no value in playing the blame Pelosi game. (she still wants heads on platters, and no matter what she may or may not been told, it wont be hers).

Its still a distraction from the issue. (of course if you feel that torture is fine and dandy, and should be used at home, at work and at school, then pelosi is the main issue)
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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There is no value in playing the blame Pelosi game. (she still wants heads on platters). Its a distraction from the issue. (of course if you feel that torture is fine and dandy, and should be used at home, at work and at school, then pelosi is the main issue)

There absolutely is. Make her look like even more of an idiot. She wants to demonize the past administration. She said she would rather play politics then try to get something changed back then. She knew what was going on. She's wrong.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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There absolutely is. Make her look like even more of an idiot. She wants to demonize the past administration. She said she would rather play politics then try to get something changed back then. She knew what was going on. She's wrong.

Nobody needs Pelosi to demonize the past administration. One of the things that they did well, without any help from Nancy.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Ok so these elected reps are sitting in a meeting. They are told enhanced interrogation techniques are being used. None asked what the hell are enhanced techniques??? Come on how could anybody be that brain dead not to at least ask what the CIA was talking about? The answer is that they didn't need to ask. They already knew. By not asking they can claim plausible deniability. In other words lie with a straight face.
What I condemn Pelosi for his her hypocrisy. People in glass houses and all that.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Nobody needs Pelosi to demonize the past administration. One of the things that they did well, without any help from Nancy.

So then she should spend her time on something else. Especially since she too was involved.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Of course we all now know that the waterboarding was all the fault of Nancy Pelosi. What everyone, the right wing, the right wing media and even the SCLM completely ignore is what the CIA actually said about the "briefings".

1. When telling about what they briefed Pelosi and the other Congressional leaders on, the CIA says, "...various EIT (enhanced interrogation techniques) that were used on Abu Zubaydah but the word waterboarding was not used."

2. The letter that CIA director Panetta sent this week states; is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents MFRs completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections" of individuals involved. Each letter also states that "[i]n the end, you and the Committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened."

In other words, there is no "record" of the briefing, it's "memos of record" that "summarize" the "best recollections" of those involved. As anyone who ever saw Alberto Gonzalez testimony "recollections" from people who are on the hot plate are often, cloudy and uncertain.

golfgod
Make up facts and twist it around all you wish, it doesn't change the truth that the old bitty lied, and she won't be around much longer...
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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I find that too much attention is being put on Pelosi, while many of the facts get covered up.
Pelosi is SOTH, which means she is third in line for the presidency, making her the highest ranking individual who knew all about what was happening. As such I believe the attention is rightfully focused.

I does not really matter, however, because I can almost guarantee you that Obama will call off further investigation into the matter, as it would be a major embarrassment to his own party, right along with the Bush administration and the Republicans.
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