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Old 05-16-2009, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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For first time in 15 years of Gallup polling, ‘pro-choice’ is overtaken.


NEW YORK - The Gallup Poll reported Friday that 51 percent of Americans now call themselves "pro-life" rather than "pro-choice" on the issue of abortion, the first time a majority gave that answer in the 15 years that Gallup has asked the question.

Majority of Americans ‘pro-life,’ poll says - Life- msnbc.com
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Old 05-16-2009, 05:32 AM
 
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I saw this earlier, and it is great news.

Obama may be the best thing to Conservatism. People are flocking back in droves. We didn't need to become more moderate as the Democrats told us we had tom we stuck to our message that has won us many Presidential elections since 1968.

But I bet that number understates the number of pro-lifers as many people consider themselves pro-choice because they believe in abortion in the case of rape, or danger to the mother's life. That is not pro-choice if those are the only instances.

Abortion is very unpopular and few people support it. It is nice to see it acknowledged. We need to turn over R v Wade, and we will finally be on the right track.
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Old 05-16-2009, 05:52 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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I saw this earlier, and it is great news.

Obama may be the best thing to Conservatism. People are flocking back in droves. We didn't need to become more moderate as the Democrats told us we had tom we stuck to our message that has won us many Presidential elections since 1968.

But I bet that number understates the number of pro-lifers as many people consider themselves pro-choice because they believe in abortion in the case of rape, or danger to the mother's life. That is not pro-choice if those are the only instances.

Abortion is very unpopular and few people support it. It is nice to see it acknowledged. We need to turn over R v Wade, and we will finally be on the right track.

I think that majority of arguments on the abortion issue are devoid of facts and reason.

I personally don't like the idea of abortion, and hope to never have to even consider the possibility.. But, its not down to me to decide what is right for somebody else. The ruling in Roe vs Wade involved the right to privacy protected by the US constitution. This is heavily debated by some, but it is also consistent with the British courts ruling that "any person should be protected from the invasion of their privacy by any other individual or group, and that full protection of the law should be provided in cases of self-determination". It is a case of reason and rationality vs. emotion and/or personal views.

The fact of the matter is that I'm sure we all would like to see a reduction in the amount of unwanted pregnancies, but there are mountains of evidence that shows outlawing abortion does little or nothing to reduce abortions. Procedures end up underground, with women having no support, councelling, correct medical treatment, or social protection. Countries where abortion is illegal also offer little or nothing in the way of education on this subject or protection during sex.

The most appropriate policies in reducing abortion rates are not to make it illegal (look at the use of drugs for example). This is why "Pailin 2012" or 'pro-lifers' answer to reducing the rate of abortion is based on gross misunderstanding.
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