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Old 05-18-2009, 12:06 PM
 
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Nope. And what would it matter? Schools in poor areas get more money per pupil than schools in rich areas.



They just had St Louis school district. I don't know what school district East St. Louis is in. All of the info can be found here. The average for Missouri is about $9600 per pupil day, I doubt E St Louis is lower than the average, as I noted St. Louis was at 15K+ maybe this includes East St. Louis?

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Thank you for looking that up, nevergoingback. I thought I'd specified Illinois but maybe not. (And - there's only one of me, Im not a "they" )
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Old 05-18-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I am still trying to figure out why I pay property taxes here. we have a educational system funded by the state lottery. figured that would have phased out abusive property taxes.

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I was asking if that claim was true - that all the schools of the same level (all high schools, e.g.) in any given county in the US receive the same amount of money every year, from their states, municipalities, fed; that the local tax base has nothing to do with school funding..
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Toledo
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I am still trying to figure out why I pay property taxes here. we have a educational system funded by the state lottery. figured that would have phased out abusive property taxes.
You must live in Ohio.
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: 95468
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Also in poorer neighborhoods the tax base is lower, so schools and so forth are of lower quality...so without education how can the people succeed...it's a death spiral.
When students taunt and beat up fellow students for acting 'white'
(carrying books, studying etc). When the majority of
students aspire to be sports stars, movie stars, criminals or
rappers. With absent fathers and single mothers that have better
things to do then raise their children. I'd say their are more
pressing issues facing the black community then 3 year old
microscopes or peeling paint. I see a death spiral. But it's a suicide.

Last edited by robertjohnson; 05-18-2009 at 01:34 PM.. Reason: extra comma
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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No. These folks do not have the intellectual capacity or ability to graduate from high school in numbers that would exceed much more than 50%. Money will not solve this problem.

- Reel
I agree that money will not solve this problem but don't agree with your "mental capacity" argument. This has nothing to do with race if thats your implication.

Blacks had much lower crime rates and illegitimacy rates before the 1960's. Blacks didn't suddenly devolve into low IQ, sub-humans in the last 40 years. The problem is politics in inner city areas, which are dominated by democrats.

However, if by "mental capacity" you mean the stunted effects liberal policies and environments create, I wholeheartedly agree.

Its unfortunate that blacks that must bear the brunt of these peoples ideas.

However that doesn't mean that blacks are passive bystanders. They can take control of their lives and responsibility for their childrens education.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:34 PM
 
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[quote=BayDude;8869507]However, if by "mental capacity" you mean the stunted effects liberal policies and environments create, I wholeheartedly agree.[quote]


Please provide details of these "liberal policies" that caused "stunting".
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:29 PM
 
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I don't understand the premise. You seem to be suggesting that it's up to the Democratic Party to make the lives of all black people easier. That's not how it works. People have to take responsibility for their own lives. I don't remember the Democratic Party ever telling anyone that they would take care of their every need.
Does this ring a bell?


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Old 05-18-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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What is it with you people.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:51 PM
 
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What is it with you people.
You and and a whole bunch of other folks know damned too well what is up with "them" people. So, I will consider your question as being purely rhetorical.
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:04 AM
 
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I agree that money will not solve this problem but don't agree with your "mental capacity" argument. This has nothing to do with race if thats your implication.

Blacks had much lower crime rates and illegitimacy rates before the 1960's. Blacks didn't suddenly devolve into low IQ, sub-humans in the last 40 years. The problem is politics in inner city areas, which are dominated by democrats.

However, if by "mental capacity" you mean the stunted effects liberal policies and environments create, I wholeheartedly agree.

Its unfortunate that blacks that must bear the brunt of these peoples ideas.

However that doesn't mean that blacks are passive bystanders. They can take control of their lives and responsibility for their childrens education.
I don't believe anyone with an IQ of 85 or less has the ability to comprehend high school material well enough to graduate. Its nonsense to assume that everyone should graduate. I also think that the average IQ of folks in poor neighborhoods is lower than the average IQ of folks in more financially well off neighborhoods. I don't believe more than 50% of the folks in poor neighborhoods have the ability to graduate from high school.

- Reel
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