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Old 07-17-2008, 02:45 PM
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Originally Posted by the_pines View Post
It seems no matter what camp someone is one Bush has really gor under their skin. My problems are the blatant cover-up to get a war with Iraq. In my opinion it was intentional and already on the table just waiting for a reason. I didnt particulary like Clinton either but Bush sure used up his 500 billion surplus quickly. Then there's the whole immigration thing gone unchecked. Now on Bush's watch an electronic monitring group has been taske with border security. Which paves the way for more stipulations on US citizens moving about freely in the country.

Then theres the NAFTA superhighway, which will flood the US with Mexican trucking and incorporate new fees, identification and background checks to use the roads. On top of that how many United States truckers will be out of work form this? Then home forclsoures reach an all time high during his presidency as well as housing prices surging fanatically on his term. Many of the places in the US that have had problems still continue to fall even further behind.

Now it looks like he is making a saving face move with walter Reed hospitals to make those veterans think he cares about them. Those same veterans are many of the people who were lied to to get a war with Iraq in the first place. There are also toll roads being built similiar to the superhighway that are being built by foreign countries. That's not even legal is it?

Now there is backtracking and scandal in the White House which seems more like ome broader scapegoat tactic than anything. Ive never felt so lied to by the media before in my life than while Bush has been president. Then there is the New orleans hurricane. I sat on the couch for five days monitoring that thing. I told my wife this thing is going to be devastating. Where was Bush? He was on vacation. Where was the response to this monster hurricane they had more than enough time to prepare for?

On top of everything else it seems like anyone who questions this administration is "unpatriotic" or "anti-american." I dont suually agree with Hollywood on much of anything, but why do they feel the need to try and tear down peoples personal lives for their opinions during this adminstration? Doesnt Bush and the other guys feel that United States citizens should be aware of their affiliations with groups and what those groups stand for entirely? Scotland passed a law that those people can not serve in the cabinet if they have ties to secret societies. So their is obviously a lot more to it then just United States people being concerned with those affiliations.

It also seems like crime has risen and racial tension has risen in many areas. The poor feel the extremely hard squeeze, and people are unhappy about so many illegals. Some for different reason. Many just for the fact that there are so many other problems around and the timing seem conspicuious. Job wages have lowered on the lower end of the spectrum not risen. Everything else seems to have soared.

Now he is over there butting heads with Iran. Im not saying those countries have great leadership. But maybe we should have been saving some of those African nations that wanted and needed help more. Are we going to have more enemies now from the war in Iraq? To top it all off the US is leading the way towards a global system of control. Just like his dad. He seems like he's programmed to think. Even his speeches indirectly say the war in Iraq wasnt about what he told the country it was. There have also been quite a few scrupulous laws passed recently that have the United States people really questioning what is going on. Many of those laws dont seem to follow suit if you know what I mean.

He also beats around the Bush so to speak when he is interviewed. You can tell his stuttering is just buying time so he doesnt give out to much information about his motives. I think he is reluctant to give out any details for obvious reasons that alot of people would be discontent with him.

There was also the bird flu fear mongering, the Anthrax fear mongering(wasnt the Anthrax from a government facility?), and the SARS fear mongering.Then the global terrorism that all seemed to come out of nowhere at the same time.

I wish he would have some integrity to resign. He is the most worthy candidate for impeachement I have ever seen in my lifetime. This is of course my opinion. I was born and raised conservative and I feel really betrayed by these guys. But I always maintain an independence from both parties. It doesnt seem to matter who we get anymore. It looks like they're all the typical cookie cutter candidates from the same societies. This next crop seems to give me nightmares already.

What do you guys think about all of this?
I agree entirely. I don't even think voting matters anymore. We aren't lobbyists, and the gov't is a sell-out, so we have no influence. We live in a fascist republic, not a democracy, to quote Gore Vidal.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:34 PM
Location: In a house
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He's pretty bad, maybe the worst,, so far. Its real likely he can be outdone by either Obama or McCain tho. Todays major political players are clueless puppets.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:49 PM
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by Back to NE View Post
Dude, the facts are everywhere!!!! There are a zillion books documenting it! My Republican mother (late 60s) says the same thing in utter denial... she actual says "what's he done wrong?"

I love her but she doesn't read books, reads only a Gazette type newspaper, barely touches the internet, just gets her lack of news from her friends.

By your reasoning, Adolf Hitler should be pardoned.
I notice you didn't provide any facts.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:40 AM
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President Bush has made alot of mistakes. His cabinet also has made and given bad information. This is worst President and cabinet. obama will not do any better. Vote no for obama. If you vote yes, we will at the mercy of this communist. We were and still are at the mercy of President Bush.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:45 PM
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The worst during my time on this planet, and in this country.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:39 PM
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He is the worst.

Thank Goodness for Barack Obama.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the_pines View Post
Proof of how easily Americans can suddenly become hatefully blind fanatical followers and how just as suddenly they forget their stupididty:

If you had posted this question on Citi Data at the height of GW Bush's power the mods here would have either deleted it or directly banned you from this sight.

I happen to know because I did and I was. And I'll NEVER forget it either because it proved that underneath that thin venner of "democratic free speech and tolerance" Americans are REALLY just stupid idiots.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Location: Durham, NC
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His Puppet Master Cheney was!
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:59 PM
Location: Long Island
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bush proved someone could be worse than carter...then we elected obummer,,who proved some one could actually be worse than a bush
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