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If you support it's leaders after they have proven to be evil and criminal .....you support evil.
If you remain with the religion you are advocating the crimes.
Doesnt matter. You try to blanket a whole group because of a very small %. I just showed you can blanket any group you want to. It doesnt make either right. Are all the leaders criminal? No. Get over yourself.
You can try to justify your bigotry all you want but everyone knows what it is.
Funny how most here will condemn all of christianity or all catholics because of a very, very, very small %. Yet these same people would be foaming at the mouth if you tried to condemn...lets just use a few examples why dont we?
1) All Mexicans are horrible and we have no reason to listen to them because a small percentage come here illegally.
2) All liberals are gays. After all...a small % actually are.
3) What about blacks? Are all violent criminals because a small % are?
4) Whites? Are all whites methheads because some actually are?
This list could keep on keeping on. Yet you all would be pissed if anyone said this. Yet you are doing the exact same.
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Yes. But my point is its out of how many? 1 Billion?
Still a small %. Its horrible. But when you start condeming 100% of a group for what a small % have done you will find youself being grouped to something you dont like.
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You know you're not going to get an answer from the left on your posts, right? It won't allow them to continue bashing ALL Catholics for the acts of a few.
It's just another way for them to vent about the horrors of Christianity.
I wonder if they p*** and moan when they walk into one of the thousands of Baptist/Methodist/etc. hospitals and need help.
It's just the standard crew on here complaining about anything they can find. The vast majority of the world knows that it's just a few idiots involved in this tragedy and we're condemning it.
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No ****, who tried to justify it?
A few tried to justify it by saying there weren't many involved...or dragging in other issues....pure horsepucky.
A few tried to justify it by saying there weren't many involved...or dragging in other issues....pure horsepucky.
No a few didnt. A few tried to show you how idiotic you are by condemning the WHOLE group because the actions of a very small %.
For your reference. Justifying it would be saying "iwhat they did was OK since its only a few". All we did was try to teach that which you obviously dont know. That you cant put an entire group in the same basket because of a very small %.
As a life-long Catholic I feel the need to weigh in here. I couldn't agree more that many of the practices of the church heirarchy as well as the parish clergy are indefensible and appalling. But I have always separated my religion from its human representatives. Unfortunately, some deviates in the clergy have been drawn to the very positions that afford them access to victims in a lifestyle with very little oversight. Far too many parents send their children off to situations such as religious schools, CCE classes, service as acolytes and other occasions where there are opportunities for those predators to have free access to vulnerable children. Add to that the fact that when things go wrong we as parents haven't always believed our children when they've reported creepy behaviors. But I think the biggest problem has been that children have been told to show "respect" to those we deem to be authority figures (teachers, policemen, doctors, priests...) and that creates a huge conflict in the mind of a child. The church hierarchy then compounds the felony by throwing up a smokescreen of denials or else just shuffles Fr. Abuser off to another parish and hopes he'll see the error of his ways and not repeat his morally reprehensible and criminal behavior. Like that ever happens...
Having said all that though, I don't see my church as its fallible and sinful people but rather as a set of spiritual beliefs that connect me to God and to the genesis of my religion. Granted, it isn't exactly the way I was taught to practice the Catholic faith but it is the accomodation I have had to reach with myself to be able to remain a practicing Catholic in the face of horrific transgressions by those who would identify themselves as Catholics.
It just reeks of hypocrisy that they call themselves "pro life" but what kind of life is it for children if they are going to be raped and/or tortured once they're on earth?
Because the Right-to-Lifers are only supporting the fetus, not the person after birth.
Doesnt matter. You try to blanket a whole group because of a very small %. I just showed you can blanket any group you want to. It doesnt make either right. Are all the leaders criminal? No. Get over yourself.
You can try to justify your bigotry all you want but everyone knows what it is.
Your support of raping and torturing children by saying other people do bad things too is ridiculous.
It's people who support the leaders who encouraged this behaviour who should take a good look at THEIR bigotry...the bigotry that say is you do something in the name of god all is OK......sick.
Trying to minimize the horror of what was done to these children is sick.
Because the Right-to-Lifers are only supporting the fetus, not the person after birth.
They actually support personal responsibility. You shouldnt get pregnant if you cant afford to provide for it.
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Pro life usually stops at birth
