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After my husband was layed off from a company that brought him and 350 other families down from NYC. He tried to find another job here in Tampa, but has had only 1 interview. Unemployment services has funding for re-education so he can better his changes to find another job. This is thanks to Obama.
Our Cobra payments are going to be $1,800 a month, but thanks to Obama, they will only be $600 a month.
What a terrible thing! He must be a socialist.
Glad we are all paying for you to be able to get an education, Now soon as you do you can make a couple car payments for me right?
You should be mad, mad, mad beyond belief. You're getting ripped off. Tell Obama you want one of those 5 million jobs the stealfromus bill was supposed to create as well as keep unemployment at or under 8%.
They're claiming they have made 150,000. Newest unemployment numbers added another 631,000 to the unemployed. $28.5 billion has been spent and almost $90 billion gone out, $60 billion of that hasn't been spent.
Well a portion is coming from me any my wife and we don't mind in the least if it helps annaegel get through these hard times, because in the words of James Bradford, "There by the grace of god, go I."
You were just saying the states should be the ones to oversee these retraining programs.
Why is it so different when the state does it versus the federal government?
You were just saying the states should be the ones to oversee these retraining programs.
I said it is ultimately an individual's responsibility and that they should have to pay back the cost of retraining programs once they are gainfully employed if they partake in this program. If you want to cut them some slack and not charge interest on their loans for a said amount of time, then I would also be supportive of that.
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Why is it so different when the state does it versus the federal government?
I believe that the 10th Amendment was put into the BoR for very valid reasons:
1. To prevent a federal government from accumulating too much power which is relatively immune to popular restraints
2. To promote bottom ups democracy which is more responsive
3. It also recognizes that local problems are best deal with by people most directly concerned
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Taxpayers still pay for it either way.
I guess you missed the part when I said they should pay back this loan once they are gainfully employed. I personally don't have a problem with a program like this, but I respect your disagreement. One way to work around this disagreement is to bring this issue to the state level where the respective citizens can decide rather than federal government.
This would also mitigate coercion.
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I don't mind taxes going to re-training programs for people losing their jobs as the economy transitions. Ideally, it is an individual responsibility and it should be paid back (perhaps with no interest) once they are gainfully employed.
But I also don't think re-training programs are the proper function of the federal government. This is an area for the states and their respective citizens.
I guess I misunderstood this statement...
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I said it is ultimately an individual's responsibility and that they should have to pay back the cost of retraining programs once they are gainfully employed. If you want to cut the some slack and not charge interest on their loans for a said amount of time, then I would also be supportive of that.
I believe that the 10th Amendment was put into the BoR for a very valid reasons:
1. To prevent a federal government from accumulating too much power
2. To promote bottom ups democracy
3. Local problems are best deal with by people most directly concerned.
I guess you missed the part when I said they should pay back this loan once they are gainfully employed. I personally don't have a problem with a program like this, but I respect your disagreement. One way to work around this disagreement is to bring this issue to the state level where their respective citizens can decide rather than federal level.
I'm curious after having seen programs like this, but years ago, and they only approved a handful of jobs to train in.
You know...can one locale really absorb 2000 new hairdressers or entry level plumbers?
What is he retraining to be? Is that job market lacking in workers ?
IMHO somebody on unemployment is guna be very motivated to get some skills.
this is a good idea.
affordable cobra is way overdue.
the working man getting a break is a good idea
the marie antoinette people have been calling the shots way too long.
but what do you expect
im french socialist.
It's so tiring to hear people complain that their taxes are paying for a service someone else gets. How do you know YOUR taxes paid for anything. Maybe YOUR taxes went to pay for the toilet paper that is used to wipe the azzes of the Democrats' in office. You can't prove it doesn't.
Try to understand, once you pay taxes, it is no longer your money. You can't decide where to allocate it, how much to allocate and, for sure, no one is going to write you a check and return it to you.
Rather than deriding the fact that tax money is given toward educating some in a new profession and that they will be able to keep their health insurance, you should be celebrating. The money those retrained will give back in taxes will be more than they got.
I don't understand why Conservatives are so resistent to helping someone get a job, pay their taxes, pay for their health care, care for their children, etc. The majority of the neo-cons who post here would rather see someone homeless, hungry and in poor health before they'd let 'their tax money' help anyone. Christianity is just hype for them. A word they throw around when they want something, not a life's practice.
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