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Old 05-22-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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Well then change and remake America must have gained a new definition. Not my words, Obama's.

: to make anew or in a different form
— re·mak·er \-ˈmā-kər\ noun

1 a: to make different in some particular : alter <never bothered to change the will> b: to make radically different : transform <can't change human nature> c: to give a different position, course, or direction to
2 a: to replace with another <let's change the subject> b: to make a shift from one to another : switch <always changes sides in an argument> c: to exchange for an equivalent sum of money (as in smaller denominations or in a foreign currency) <change a 20-dollar bill> d: to undergo a modification of <foliage changing color> e: to put fresh clothes or covering on <change a bed>intransitive verb1: to become different <her mood changes every hour>2of the moon : to pass from one phase to another
3: to shift one's means of conveyance : transfer <on the bus trip he had to change twice>
4of the voice : to shift to lower register : break
5: to undergo transformation, transition, or substitution <winter changed to spring>
6: to put on different clothes <need a few minutes to change for dinner>
7: exchange, switch <neither liked his seat so they changed with each other>





Many people are calling him transformational already...
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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For those of you that profess righteous indignation that we used "torture", how do you feel that it prevented an attack on LA? If you're still against it, then you're saying that innocent people are not as worthy as theoretical ideals and principals.

Please provide a link to your evidence. BTW, I am not chiming in on behalf of those who doubt you, I just think you need to provide evidence.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Can't. That's what this whole Cheney-Obama thing is about....
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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As soon as the fuhrer releases the classified info. He's the only one... He released half of it... *wreaks of political hackery*
Nope, sorry your illogical comments don't resolve this.

The OP MUST present what he is referring to in his post that created this thread.

Period.

But he is hiding....
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Old 05-22-2009, 05:18 PM
 
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Old 05-22-2009, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Well in all honesty they do think America is what's wrong with the world.
Actually, you're right. But not for reasons you may believe (NOT because we're "free")
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:09 PM
 
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...still waiting...

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Old 05-23-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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...still waiting...

Maybe the OP will read this:

Cheney's assertions of lives saved is hard to prove - Los Angeles Times

"Arguing against Obama's policies, [Cheney] says that the Bush administration's approach to terrorism spared 'perhaps hundreds of thousands.' Experts say no evidence of that has emerged."
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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Maybe the OP will read this:

Cheney's assertions of lives saved is hard to prove - Los Angeles Times

"Arguing against Obama's policies, [Cheney] says that the Bush administration's approach to terrorism spared 'perhaps hundreds of thousands.' Experts say no evidence of that has emerged."
Yes, and there can be NO evidence.


HOW would anyone prove it?

Oh, bushCo could lie about it like they did everything else....remember when georgie stated that "the U.S. does not torture"....

so there is NO way to find out.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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For those of you that profess righteous indignation that we used "torture", how do you feel that it prevented an attack on LA? If you're still against it, then you're saying that innocent people are not as worthy as theoretical ideals and principals.
Specious BS proven to be a myth among the fringe
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