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Old 05-23-2009, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Well actually my country allows same-sex marriage and i'm not planning to move to the United States.

Also, how am I being inconsiderate of 95 % of the population. My marriage does not impact their marriage. Should the straight people who get a divorce move to another country as well
Only if they wish to redefine divorce in a way that their country doesn't accept and they want too.
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- a divorce is disrespectful to your rigid definition of marriage - which btw isn't rooted in love obviously.
Many marriages are disrespectful to the definition of marriage, that's why they end in divorce. They never should have happened in the first place.
My recognition of this does not mean i wish to have a rule or law against a man and a woman taking this direction, its just reality.
Again, there are some really poor comparisons given on this subject.
You can't compare same with opposite. It's like fitting a square peg in a round hole, it no work.

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Perhaps all muslims should move out of America as well eh
Why would you say this? There are many great muslim/americans.
I do like the idea of getting rid of the head chopping off one's though.

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Obviously your America is different than many of your fellow Americans! One thing is for sure - the U.S is the most divided nation in the western hemisphere - god speed to you!
My America hasn't existed for quite sometime. This adulteration of America is far from the one that it could be, and continuing down the path we are on will lead to pain and suffering the likes that man has never seen.
You have a front row seat.... enjoy the show.
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Old 05-23-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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How is love a civil rights issue?
- i should be free to love another another adult human being if i choose to and the law should respect that equally.
Civil rights protection!
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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My America hasn't existed for quite sometime. This adulteration of America is far from the one that it could be, and continuing down the path we are on will lead to pain and suffering the likes that man has never seen.
You have a front row seat.... enjoy the show.
You are a sad man! You choose to see darkness even when there is light. You wish to see evil when there is love.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Homosexuality degrades the value of heterosexual relationships because it switches human gender roles.

Yes there is nothing that biologically inhibits a gay person (male or female) from reproducing and some have biological children.

The world is made of men and women. There are grey areas of how masculine a man is and how feminine a woman is, but two men together cannot nurture a female or male child the way a woman can... nor can two women can raise a male or female child to understand and accept male-female interpersonal communication for a sound foundation. The kid gets half the picture and is at a disadvantage because of this.

Single mothers without the benefit of a male role model for their child have this problem. The children are socially at a disadvantage throughout their development.
I actually (sort of) agree with you on the kids thing. Sort of, though I'm starting to reconsider.

That said....nature gives humans the ability to engage in oral or anal sex with someone of the same sex as them. Nature also makes certain people emotionally and physically attracted to those of the same sex. I can't find a single thing that they're doing that's unnatural.

Just because two men or two women cannot reproduce does not mean their sexual attraction or sexual activity between themselves is "unnatural" or wrong in any way....nor is there any phyisiological incompatability as you mentioned earlier. Homosexuality also does not "degrade the value of heterosexual relationships."
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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No - point is?
My point is.. is that if you have not lived here how are you qualified to comment on a subject that deals with a culture not of your own?

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Originally Posted by mississauga75 View Post
Well actually my country allows same-sex marriage and i'm not planning to move to the United States.

Also, how am I being inconsiderate of 95 % of the population. My marriage does not impact their marriage. Should the straight people who get a divorce move to another country as well - a divorce is disrespectful to your rigid definition of marriage - which btw isn't rooted in love obviously.

Perhaps all muslims should move out of America as well eh

Obviously your America is different than many of your fellow Americans!
American culture is not Canadian culture and your values are different than what we share in this nation.

The comment about muslims is snarky... of course - your CN tower wasn't attacked by two 747's on 9/11/01... you're just an observer with an opinion.

No muslims shouldn't be targeted because they're muslim...

But you're an armchair observer as far as I'm concerned, so don't try to impress your narrow view of American politics and culture on these threads because unless you've lived here you have NO idea of what you're talking about.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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I actually (sort of) agree with you on the kids thing. Sort of, though I'm starting to reconsider.

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I sincerely hope you do.. You are a very open minded and intelligent person and i've grown to respect your posts very much. Whatever the conclusion you come to regarding this, I know it will be through open eyes and an open heart!
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Homosexuality degrades the value of heterosexual relationships because it switches human gender roles.
That makes no sense.

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The world is made of men and women. There are grey areas of how masculine a man is and how feminine a woman is, but two men together cannot nurture a female or male child the way a woman can... nor can two women can raise a male or female child to understand and accept male-female interpersonal communication for a sound foundation. The kid gets half the picture and is at a disadvantage because of this.
You make it sound like all heterosexual households are filled with love and respect between parents. The truth is, many children in heterosexual households are being nurtured into being abusers. Those are the children who are truly disadvantaged and who are a damage to our society. Drop the idealistic image of heterosexual households.

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Single mothers without the benefit of a male role model for their child have this problem. The children are socially at a disadvantage throughout their development.
Not if the absent father was abusive. Then they are at an advantage. All fathers are not created equal....nor are mothers. The way you are misusing the studies you are referring to would have on think otherwise.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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- i should be free to love another another adult human being if i choose to and the law should respect that equally.
Civil rights protection!
You're in bleedin' Canada talking about our nation's civil rights battle.

You really need to read an AMERICAN history book. Or two!
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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You are a sad man! You choose to see darkness even when there is light. You wish to see evil when there is love.
I've seen the light, therefore it is simple to recognize darkness.

Remember an Ostrich only see's darkness. An Eagle soars in the light.
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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- i should be free to love another another adult human being if i choose to and the law should respect that equally.
Civil rights protection!
Please refer to post #479... Thank you.
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