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And in 2004, the senate intelligence committe unanimously approved a report acknowledging that it "did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments."
the following year, the bipartisan robb-silberman report similarly found "no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding iraq's wmd."
many democrats (who saw the same information as bush) said exactly the same thing. Democrats such as bill and hillary clinton, al gore and john kerry. Were they "lying?"
the fact is that either bush and the entire international intelligence community and the senate and house "lied" or none of them did. It can't be both way.
Where have you been?
not. You are misinformed. Al queda wanted nothing to do with hussein.
explain away the WMD's now.
I get it, faux news don't rule.
Legal "opinions" are not court rulings. The Justice Department and many senior military people do consider water boarding torture. At the trial feel free to bring forward your "legal opinions."
Great then for God's sake stop whining like a teenage girl. Your Republicans got shown the door in November by the American public. Have the class to go away.
But yet liberals dont want a trial or hearings to determine if the CIA lies to congress.. How odd!!!
not. You are misinformed. Al queda wanted nothing to do with hussein.
explain away the WMD's now.
I get it, faux news don't rule.
Um, Al Queda had camps INSIDE of Iraq, Hussein never shut them down. They were not working together, but they definately were not fighting in opposition.. Ignoring that fact is like saying that terrorists camps should be allowed to be setup training camps in NYC and the US Govt wouldnt be enabling them if they allowed them to continue..
Um, Al Queda had camps INSIDE of Iraq, Hussein never shut them down. They were not working together, but they definately were not fighting in opposition.. Ignoring that fact is like saying that terrorists camps should be allowed to be setup training camps in NYC and the US Govt wouldnt be enabling them if they allowed them to continue..
no, not, wrong. we have terrorists in the USA, wake up and smell the coffee.
Um, Al Queda had camps INSIDE of Iraq, Hussein never shut them down. They were not working together, but they definately were not fighting in opposition.. Ignoring that fact is like saying that terrorists camps should be allowed to be setup training camps in NYC and the US Govt wouldnt be enabling them if they allowed them to continue..
That's true. Salman Pac was one of them. That was the camp which had the fuselage of a 747 so the terrorists could practice hijacking.
But some people, like the one you replied to, will keep on defending the terrorists and not the U.S.! Sad, really.
I already did explain the WMD. Two separate investigations said the Bush administration did not lie about them. But you didn't answer my question... did Bill and Hillary Clinton lie about WMD, too, when they made the same claims as Bush? Did Al Gore lie. Did John Kerry?
Just to refresh your memory:
"One way or another, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD and the missiles to deliver them."
- Pres. Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's WMD program."
- Pres. Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Saddam has engaged in the development of WMD technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Dec. 16, 1998
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Vice Pres. Al Gore, Sep. 23, 2002
"I will be voting to give the Pres. of the U.S. the authority to use force- if necessary- to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of WMD in his hands is a real and grave threat to our country."
- Sen. John F. Kerry, Oct. 9, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorist, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nulclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton, Oct. 10, 2002
Did all of the above "lie?"
As for al Qaeda and Hussein...
Abdul Rahmin Yasin, the man who mixed the chemicals for the 1993 bombing of the World Trader Center, was on the payroll of the Iraqi goverment and receiving safe haven there until the American invasion. IIS documents back this up. He was also living in an apartment paid for by the Iraqi government and was receiving a monthly salary.
Zarqawi ran terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. When he was injured, he fled to Iraq and was treated in a Baghdad, Iraq hospital. He also worked with Ansar Al Islam, which was funded by the Bathists, and he coordinated the assassination of an American diplomat for USAID in 2002 in Jordon.
A question... why are you more tolerant of terrorists than you are of the U.S.?
I already did explain the WMD. Two separate investigations said the Bush administration did not lie about them. But you didn't answer my question... did Bill and Hillary Clinton lie about WMD, too, when they made the same claims as Bush? Did Al Gore lie. Did John Kerry?
Just to refresh your memory:
"One way or another, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD and the missiles to deliver them."
- Pres. Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's WMD program."
- Pres. Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Saddam has engaged in the development of WMD technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Dec. 16, 1998
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Vice Pres. Al Gore, Sep. 23, 2002
"I will be voting to give the Pres. of the U.S. the authority to use force- if necessary- to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of WMD in his hands is a real and grave threat to our country."
- Sen. John F. Kerry, Oct. 9, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorist, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nulclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton, Oct. 10, 2002
Did all of the above "lie?"
As for al Qaeda and Hussein...
Abdul Rahmin Yasin, the man who mixed the chemicals for the 1993 bombing of the World Trader Center, was on the payroll of the Iraqi goverment and receiving safe haven there until the American invasion. IIS documents back this up. He was also living in an apartment paid for by the Iraqi government and was receiving a monthly salary.
Zarqawi ran terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. When he was injured, he fled to Iraq and was treated in a Baghdad, Iraq hospital. He also worked with Ansar Al Islam, which was funded by the Bathists, and he coordinated the assassination of an American diplomat for USAID in 2002 in Jordon.
A question... why are you more tolerant of terrorists than you are of the U.S.?
In essence what you are saying is theat President Clinton should have been the President to launch a pre-emptive strike on Iraq, but instead, left office not caring about what Iraq had, and left the mess for Bush to clean up?
If that's the case, you should be President and bomb any country or soverign nation and overthrow any government your little heart desires.
Way, way, way too much faux news, way too much.
I think you and I have had this argument before and you lost.
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A question... why are you more tolerant of terrorists than you are of the U.S.?
this question/statement doesn't make sense to me, I think you're assuming something here, or, are insulting me. don't forget, I am an American, and a veteran too, so, you'd better watch your step here. Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9/11, and we all know that.
Missile capability? Iraq had no technology to build an ICBM, so, get off of that one.
Anyway, we all know bush was a liar. getting back to topic here http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportspros...erboarded.html
it is torture, no 2 ways about it. who cares about pelosi, we all should be concerned about who initiated the order and authorized waterboadring/torture, bush and cheney.
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But yet liberals dont want a trial or hearings to determine if the CIA lies to congress.. How odd!!!
No not a priority. Of course the CIA deceived Congress. That's a side show.
But a Justice Department investigation of who ordered and enabled torture by CIA and other officials that extends to the Bush White House and Justice Department, would be very much of interest to me.
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