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Old 05-23-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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Do kindergardeners really need to be taught about human sexuality?

And if they are shouldn't the parents have some authority over the school system with regard to this matter?

What happened to ABC's and 123's? Why the gay thing at 5 years old if not for training to desensitize them to this subject? Hey I already made a thread about the RAINBOW symbolism!
Did you read the article? They are not teaching sexuality of any kind. They are teaching kindergateners about teasing and bullying.

And yes, 5 year olds need to learn teasing and bullying are wrong.

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Old 05-23-2009, 07:15 PM
 
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Horse manure.
Is it? Test scores in math and science in this country have gone up 1% in the last thirty years. While we're worrying about stupid stuff like this countries like India and China or pumping out scientist and engineers.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:16 PM
 
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Did you read the article? They are not teaching sexuality of any kind. They are teaching kindergateners about teasing and bullying.

And yes, 5 year olds need to learn teasing and bullying are wrong.
Because of all the gay 5 year olds? Ok.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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Because of all the gay 5 year olds? Ok.
No, because kids need to learn about different types of people and different types of families. If you teach them nothing, you're breeding ignorance.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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Because of all the gay 5 year olds? Ok.

Many kindergarteners today (especially in large cities and progressive communities) have two moms. Two dads is less common, but sometimes kids do have two dads.
It is common in my city for lesbian couples to have children.
Often, these parents want to participate in the classroom just as heterosexual parents do.
There is no way to shield the other children from knowing that the child has two mothers.
We shouldn't try to shield them from it. It's not a harmful or scary thing.
It's an opportunity to teach about acceptance and diversity.
Children need to know that families come in many variations: some children are raised by their grandmothers, some by a mom and dad, some by two moms, etc.
Kindergartners take such information at face value, if it is presented properly. it is no different than the fact that some children have many brothers and sisters, and some have none. Families come in many different variations, and none are inherently better than the other, and the important thing is that family members love and take care of each other.
That is what kindergartners need to be taught. Then they won't bully and tease classmates whose families might be different from their own.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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So two men can procreate in a natural manner? Not.
They are being taught perversion, lies, and indecency... all wrapped up in the disguise of a normal family...... of Penguins.
Have you read the syllabus? Ever think you might be the one with thoughts of perversion and indecency? I doubt anything you mentioned with be discussed with a class of five old children. We all know there is more to a relationship than procreating. I have a happy marriage and no children. Do you to procreate each time you have relations with your spouse? If course you don't. If you did you'd have your own TV show!

With all the step parents, half siblings and unwed teen moms in the Christian community, how do you define a normal family?
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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The degree to which the issue/abnormality infringes on others and/or impairs the ability of the person to live a normal life. What one does in one's bedroom with another consenting adult is of no business of anyone outside that bedroom.
Necrophilia does not infringe on the life of another, nor does bestiality. That seems to meet your criteria. Are those acceptable? Also, who defines what "normal" is? Also, why does your criteria rank above all? What makes your assessment of right or wrong above another? Are we to accept your moral clarification as absolute? By what authority do you proclaim to be the absolute authority? Is that authority absolute or can it change?
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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Necrophilia does not infringe on the life of another, nor does bestiality. That seems to meet your criteria. Are those acceptable? Also, who defines what "normal" is? Also, why does your criteria rank above all? What makes your assessment of right or wrong above another? Are we to accept your moral clarification as absolute? By what authority do you proclaim to be the absolute authority? Is that authority absolute or can it change?
Necrophilia there is no way to get consent. Bestiality the same thing and you are infringing on the life of the animal because they can't tell you you are not. In either case - lack of CONSENT is the big qualifier in both of these cases. There is no meeting of the minds.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Do kindergardeners really need to be taught about human sexuality?

And if they are shouldn't the parents have some authority over the school system with regard to this matter?

What happened to ABC's and 123's? Why the gay thing at 5 years old if not for training to desensitize them to this subject? Hey I already made a thread about the RAINBOW symbolism!
Again the kindergartners are not being taught about human sexuality.

Here are the Kindergarten Vocabulary words:
Name calling, Exclude, Hurtful, Teasing, Different, Similar, Comfortable

The book used "The New Girl…and Me" by Jacqui Robbins is about a new girl with a pet iguana.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Necrophilia does not infringe on the life of another, nor does bestiality. That seems to meet your criteria. Are those acceptable? Also, who defines what "normal" is? Also, why does your criteria rank above all? What makes your assessment of right or wrong above another? Are we to accept your moral clarification as absolute? By what authority do you proclaim to be the absolute authority? Is that authority absolute or can it change?
Wow. You sure can read a lot into what someone posts, can't you. Gotta watch that, because you are usually wrong when you do that.

I was answering your original question ("If we are talking about chemical or genetic issues, then what delineates one abnormality from the other?") by providing a pretty general/simple definition of what is used in psychology/sociology. Take it or leave it. I thought it was a legit question, not a set up for an ambush.
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