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Old 05-24-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Included in this; a excellent summary by a brit.

The Associated Press: Text of Cheney's speech on national security

All those concerned about national security and what obama is doing to weaken this country should read this excellent speech by the former VP.

Here is a little summary;

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The 10 punches Dick Cheney landed on Barack Obama's jaw
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But the very fact that Obama chose to schedule his speech (Cheney's was announced first) at exactly the same time as the former veep was a sign of some weakness.
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3. "By presidential decision last month, we saw the selective release of documents relating to enhanced interrogations. This is held up as a bold exercise in open government, honoring the public's right to know. We're informed as well that there was much agonizing over this decision. Yet somehow, when the soul searching was done and the veil was lifted on the policies of the Bush administration, the public was given less than half the truth."

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Old 05-24-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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9. "It's worth recalling that ultimate power of declassification belongs to the president himself. President Obama has used his declassification authority to reveal what happens in the interrogation of terrorists. Now let him use that same power to show Americans what did not happen thanks to the good work of our intelligence officials."
Yes. Please, obama. Let the American people decide for themselves.

The best;

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10. "To the very end of our administration, we kept al-Qaeda terrorists busy with other problems. We focused on getting their secrets instead of sharing ours with them. And on our watch, they never hit this country again. After the most lethal and devastating terrorist attack ever, 7- 1/2 years without a repeat is not a record to be rebuked and scorned, much less criminalized."
How do obama and the dems/libs get away with such a definition? The obama media of course.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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More like swing at air!

— Cheney said that President Barack Obama's decision to release the four top-secret Bush administration memos on the interrogation techniques was "flatly contrary" to U.S. national security, and would help al Qaida train terrorists in how to resist U.S. interrogations.
However, Blair, who oversees all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, said in his statement that he recommended the release of the memos, "strongly supported" Obama's decision to prohibit using the controversial methods and that "we do not need these techniques to keep America safe."

— Cheney said that the Bush administration "moved decisively against the terrorists in their hideouts and their sanctuaries, and committed to using every asset to take down their networks."

The former vice president didn't point out that Osama bin Laden and his chief lieutenant, Ayman al Zawahri , remain at large nearly eight years after 9-11 and that the Bush administration began diverting U.S. forces, intelligence assets, time and money to planning an invasion of Iraq before it finished the war in Afghanistan against al Qaida and the Taliban .

There are now 49,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan fighting to contain the bloodiest surge in Taliban violence since the 2001 U.S.-led intervention, and Islamic extremists also have launched their most concerted attack yet on neighboring, nuclear-armed Pakistan .

— Cheney denied that there was any connection between the Bush administration's interrogation policies and the abuse of detainee at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, which he blamed on "a few sadistic guards . . . in violation of American law, military regulations and simple decency."

However, a bipartisan Senate Armed Services Committee report in December traced the abuses at Abu Ghraib to the approval of the techniques by senior Bush administration officials, including former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld .
"The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of 'a few bad apples' acting on their own," said the report issued by Sens. Carl Levin , D- Mich. , and John McCain , R- Ariz. "The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create the appearance of their legality and authorized their use against detainees."

And there are quite a few more.

Cheney's speech contained omissions, misstatements - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090521/pl_mcclatchy/3237981 - broken link)
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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Seems like he really truly did NOT give it to Obama.
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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<sarcasm>Yeah, he really gave it to Obama.</sarcasm>

"And on our watch, they never hit this country again."

But it was on your watch, Dick, that the attacks of 9/11 happened. You can try all the revisionist history you'd like, but you can't change that one simple fact ... that when you & Dubya were in charge of the safety of this country's citizens, you failed big time.
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Old 05-24-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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But it was on your watch, Dick, that the attacks of 9/11 happened. You can try all the revisionist history you'd like, but you can't change that one simple fact ... that when you & Dubya were in charge of the safety of this country's citizens, you failed big time.
It was clinton's failure to do anything of substance against the terrorists in the 90's - attack after attack - with no consequences for the bad guys. Clinton was perceived (and rightly so) as weak, UBL said as much - and that perception led directly to 9/11.

In addition, Jamie Gorelic of the clinton justice department had built a wall so high between the FBI and CIA that vital intelligence and information was not passed between the 2 agencies.

There is no doubt that the weakness and incompetence of the clinton administration allowed the attacks on 9/11 to succeed.
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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I agree with your status message sanrene, thanks to Bush/Cheney....now President Obama will try to fix the g.. d... mess.
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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There is no doubt that the weakness and incompetence of the clinton administration allowed the attacks on 9/11 to succeed.
Well, that didn't take long, did it? The same lame excuse offered by the right for anything that went wrong, not only during Clinton's time in office, but Dubya's as well.
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:43 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The only thing he gave is a baseless, highly over-rated opinion of himself and the lame administration he allegedly served.

When it comes to opinions, I don't place too much value on the ones uttered by someone whose plan of action is:

READY!

FIRE!

AIM!
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:43 PM
 
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I agree with your status message sanrene, thanks to Bush/Cheney....now President Obama will try to fix the g.. d... mess.
What mess has Obama fixed or planned to fix that are not similar to the policies of Bush/Cheney?
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