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Originally Posted by southernnaturelover I'm a gay man and I have never even heard of "NAMBLA".
I hope you don't think that the majority of gay people think like that?
Oh please. Don't use some defunct organization of criminal wackos who, when it existed, consisted of about 300 people to say that "the homosexuals" (all ~22,000,000 of us, ~474,740,200 if you want to go worldwide) want to legalize sexually abusing children.
You know, there are other pro-pedophilia groups out there not based on the man/boy relationship. Why not rile against the "heterosexual agenda" to legalize pedophilia because of the existence of the Danish Pedophile Association?
homosexuality is a sexual dysfunction and preference.
I doubt there's 22 million homosexuals in this nation.
the census comes next year I don't recall a category for sexual preference on that form.
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there is nothing normal or natural about two men having sex play or two women.
Yeah there is. Any way you look at it.
Natural:
Well, it occurs in nature. Homosexuality has been observed in nearly every animal species in which we've looked. Especially high rates are observed in mammals and birds.
In humans it's innate, or biologically determined - in other words it's not a choice (ask any homosexual - we'll all tell you this is the case).
Normal:
The first definition of "normal" is "natural or usual", usual meaning "commonly observed." We've already established that homosexuality is natural, plus it's very commonly observed, so it's normal.
The psychological definition of normal is "free from a mental disorder." Homosexuality is not a mental disorder (according to the APA), so psychologically it's normal.
So, homosexuality is both normal and natural. The question then becomes weather it's moral, immoral, sinful, wrong, icky, gross, etc. My answer to that is there is absolutely nothing immoral, sinful, wrong, icky, or gross about homosexuality.
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I've never met a gay person who supports legalizing pedophilia
OK... now I'm in NO way saying that all homosexuals are pedophiles or are into little boys. There are many homosexuals who are productive and law abiding citizens, with the one difference being their desire for other men's genitals.
There are, however, a large number of gays that do concentrate their efforts on teen and even pre-teen boys. They are known in the gay community as so-called "chicken hawks" and the thriving hustler communities in many cities, made up of runaway teens is one result of this fact.
Of course, there are plenty of hetrosexual men who are into younger girls, and teen prostitution is a problem for girls as well, so this isn't just a homosexual issue. It is unique that groups like NAMBLA tend to be more vocal and aligned with the "gay lifestyle." Their whole purpose for being is the sick claim that sex with young boys who "consent" should be legal and proper.
Natural:
Well, it occurs in nature. Homosexuality has been observed in nearly every animal species in which we've looked. Especially high rates are observed in mammals and birds.
OK... now I'm in NO way saying that all homosexuals are pedophiles or are into little boys. There are many homosexuals who are productive and law abiding citizens, with the one difference being their desire for other men's genitals.
There are, however, a large number of gays that do concentrate their efforts on teen and even pre-teen boys. They are known in the gay community as so-called "chicken hawks" and the thriving hustler communities in many cities, made up of runaway teens is one result of this fact.
Of course, there are plenty of hetrosexual men who are into younger girls, and teen prostitution is a problem for girls as well, so this isn't just a homosexual issue. It is unique that groups like NAMBLA tend to be more vocal and aligned with the "gay lifestyle." Their whole purpose for being is the sick claim that sex with young boys who "consent" should be legal and proper.
You know, there are other pro-pedophilia groups out there not based on the man/boy relationship. Why don't more people rile against the "heterosexual agenda" to legalize pedophilia because of the existence of the Danish Pedophile Association (among many others)?
NAMBLA was (it's now defunct) an organization of about 300 criminal wackos. Stop bringing them up in this debate. They were child molesters, not homosexuals.
Trust me dude they are in the minority. As a gay man, I like MEN, not children (boys). I think 95% of gays share my views as well. Of course, as always it only takes one crackpot group like NAMBLA to create a stereotype that ALL gay men love boys.
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