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Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Israel have more UN condemnations than any other country?
How can that be? The cradle of civilized perfection, the most innocent, morally righteous nation that ever existed on this planet. The nation that never does any wrong. It's a dirty shame that the rest of the world doesn't recognize glorious, god-given perfection when they see it.
Iran being the third largest area of jewish population means nothing.Before WWII Germany was one of the leading areas with a jewish population.
True, but Jews in Germany didn't really have much warning. Hitler gained power fast and no one during that time would have thought Germany would have started a holocaust.
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The news didn't back that there were WMD's in Iraq,only George W said they were there and the intelligent americans including myself knew he was lying.
Yes they did, many times they repeated over and over until Americans thought they were going to war to destroy evil! (Saddam was evil sure but the war in Iraq is and was not a good way to go about removing him from power)
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Which papers or news stations said Ahmedinajad,was misquoted or translated improperly,Al Jazeera?
Pretty much every western news source. You don't need a news source to translate. Many translators have said he was mis translated.
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Give me a break.ABC,CBS,NBC properly report the news.
Laughable.
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Unfortunately I can't say the same about Fox,or Al Jazeera(both extremely biased).
Name one news source that isn't. One should only trust independent news sources, ones without agendas.
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Also no news stations in the U.S ,EVER praised Israel for going after the Palestinians, thats just you making it up as you go.
The complete distortion of facts and exagerations were in support of Israel and still are. Western sources did not want to report onj the WMD's used, the bombing of civilians, schools, and U.N. until it was widely known thanks to the internet. They then tried to change things around by saying "Terrorists were hiding in the U.N.!" blah blah blah.
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Ahmedinajad is an anti-semite and he doesn't deny his HATRED for Israel either and when he spoke at the college in the U.S,he was blasted for it.
He does not like Zionism. That is not Jews. He does not like Israel, neither do many Jews.
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Besides him,I won't blame all Iranians and say that they have the same view because that would be a lie.When a madman leads a country,some will follow and others will go their own way.
Of course the Iranian people, most, aren't bad. The media tries to paint them that way.
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I suggest that you stop denying what he said and just stick to the point that not all Iranians believe what he does.At least that would be realistic and truthful.
I suggest you actually look into what you are trying to argue. The facts are Ahmadinejad has never openly said "We must destroy the Jews!"
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If you are saying Iran is a misunderstood peace loving nation you are very wrong. They sent soldiers over the boarder to help terrorists fight the coalition in Iraq. And that is the tip of the iceberg with their mischief.
Iran is extremely peacful compared to other countries. But not perfectly peaceful. It is possible they have been waging a proxy war but there really is no evidence.
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What are you talking about? The reason Israel doesn't have boots on the ground in Iraq is because they are hated in the Middle East and as unpopular as the war is with the street (It was looked favorably on by Arab leaders) it would have been an absolute nightmare with the hated jews involved.
I don't know about in Hoboken but in my part of NJ THAT's what's known as a (kindly version) lame excuse.
, we're hated so we can't do anything.
IF they're gonna continue to talk the tough guy talk it's time they walk the tough guy walk. Here's a clue, Americans are also hated there and there's plenty of hard working American boots on the ground.
And the "we're poor victims so our behavior is always justified" card is old, worn, and due to be discarded.
Building settlements is not harmful to US interests. Capitulating to Hamas is.
Previous Israeli governments had agreed to the US position on building settlements. Hamas' position is irrelevant here.
Since the current Israeli government is reneging on past agreements with the US, then the US should reduce their aid. The Israelis have effectively breached the contract they have made with America, and thus the US has no obligation to comply with said contract.
If Israel is so dead set on settlements, which are not only contrary to international law and to agreements that the US and Israel have made in the past, then let them do it with reduced support from the US. They could always ask China to sponsor them.
Israel used to have moral standing and moral authority in the world, but it has lost that standing and authority by electing its current government. The current Israeli government has no more moral authority than the current Turkish government and only slightly more than the current Lebanese government. This isn't your father's Israel we're talking about.
Having Israel as a friend in the region helps in a number of ways. First it helps with intelligence. They can tell us what is going on in a very dangerous neighborhood. The Mossad is a very effective organization. They can act as a proxy for us. They blew up Irans first attempt at making nukes. Also it helps having a democracy in a region where no other democracies exist. The more democratic the world the less violence there would be.
If you knew anything of the politics of the region you would know why they are not on the ground in Iraq.
I know enough about politics to know why they don't have boots on the ground in Iraq, which is why they are not an asset, but a liability, which is exactly my point. If Israel were to be part of an invasion it would unite the Arab states against us and also Israel, which is why I say they do nothing to help support us ...they in fact are a liability.
Yes they have a great spy agency. If you check current events you would be aware that are being investigated for spying on us...what friends!
Cut them off! They don't need us. They are strong enough to beat anyone in the region and they are financially stable.
I will call them a democracy when they let the arabs in Israel vote.
Building settlements is not harmful to US interests. Capitulating to Hamas is.
Building settlements is very harmful to US interests. It strengthens radical elements and anti-American sentiment in countries that are US allies like Malaysia, Egypt, Jordan and Indonesia as well as harms relations with countries that are on the fence such as Lebanon. As long the Palestinian question remains unresolved and America supports Israel regardless of their actions, there will be difficulties in convincing moderate Islamic areas and secular governments in majority Muslim countries that the US can be an honest broker in international affairs.
The palestians have thumbed their nose at us for decades yet we still give them aid even with hamas and all the terrorist groups. Why should israel run their country by what we want them to do?
The palestians have thumbed their nose at us for decades yet we still give them aid even with hamas and all the terrorist groups. Why should israel run their country by what we want them to do?
We need to stop giving aid to Hamas. Private charitable organizations with a proven trackrecord - sure, why not. But to hamas? There is no logic in that, hamas will merely take our 'bribes' and still hate us.
he never said he wanted to wipe all jews off the map... He never even said he wants to wipe israel off the map.
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