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Old 05-26-2009, 01:06 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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And now they have just fired 2 more missiles. These nut cases mean business!

Report: N. Korea Test-Fires 2 Short-Range Missiles - North Korea | Map | Government - FOXNews.com
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:25 AM
 
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Get Ready for Another North Korean Nuke Test - WSJ.com

Remember this article by John Bolten? He was spot on.



The enemies of the US know weakness when they see it.
North Korea is weak.

The whole country is classic right wing extremist idiots.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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would anyone care to admit GWB's blunders or was his FP just a model of conservative idealism.
GWB is not a conservative.
But at least he didn't give N. Korea nuclear material (for "energy" purposes) and have built (at our cost) two nuclear power plants costing $1 billion each.

Bush was also smart enough to not change the way the CIA could obtain information which is just what "Bubba" did.
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:07 AM
 
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Nuclear winter, look it up. If there was a nuclear war, you don't need to worry about the blasts. You would be dead. But you would need to worry about climate change caused from a nuclear war. The Ash and other debris would block the sun dropping out temperature causing death not only by crops not being able to grow but by the storms, etc, a simple drop of temperature can cause.
I think you've solved global warming.

Only kidding.
I've seen a ton of bad movies where the solution to a disaster is nuclear weapons (though I did like Armageddon).

Earthquake?
Nuke it.

Volcano?
Nuke it.

Meteor?
Nuke it.

Earth's rotation stopped?
Nuke it.

It'd be something if we eventually nuked global warming.
(life imitates art)
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:23 AM
 
Location: United States
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And now they have just fired 2 more missiles. These nut cases mean business!

Report: N. Korea Test-Fires 2 Short-Range Missiles - North Korea | Map | Government - FOXNews.com

North Korea tests Nuke, Iran gets mad at North Korea for stealing all the attention so Iran sends 6 warships into international waters. North Korea no like! So now they fire off 2 more missles . Lol, all they want is attention .
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Baku, Azerbaijan
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These are my posts from neighbouring thread.

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Three countries in the World are interested (one more, one less and one desperatly most of the rest) in KPDR's nuclear program success. Those are China, Russia and definitely Iran. Each of these 3 countries have own motives of supporting N. Korean regime and it's nuclear plans (China and Russia want to keep this "lever of pressure" to political processes in the World, besides that China also hopes to solve some internal problems and trading issues in Asia and Africa; Russia is interested mostly politically and hope to solve conflicts in South Caucasus and Balkans in own favor (they still have that stupid SUPERPOWER complex); Iran needs N. Korea to share it's nuclear experience with Islamic Republic and also from "IT WILL LET US RID OF THOSE WESTERN BUSTARDS' ACCUSATIONS AND SANCTION PRESSURE THAT POISON OUR LIFE!" point of view. Or hopes that West finally will be distracted from Iranian nuclear program). There also can be more (unexpected) players in this deadly game. So, this problem is much more serious if there can be such.
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Not really! This is the stage when activity of US troops in the region cannot change the process backwards. And besides as I said N. Korea is far not on it's own. You need to deal with big regional players. Only China and Russia can help to neutralize KPDR's nuclear facilities and warheads. I would say they are controlling the situation for 70%. The rest depends on N.Korean leaders' madness.
You need to realize that this lever of pressure on USA is like manna from heaven for Russia and China. Not being as powerful as US those countries, especially The Russian Federation, by means of intimidating westerners and Japan with S. Korea want to prove it's significance.
By me it is very "dirty" play!
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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North Korea is weak.

The whole country is classic right wing extremist idiots.
"right wing" ?

They are under a pyscho communist dictator. Which is closer to a progressive liberal than anything else.

We'll provide your job, control the banks, auto industry, all resources, health care, and retirement.

sounds like an Obama administration to me.
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I wonder how long the Chinese are going to put up with this serious threat in their back yard. A missile that can carry a nuke to Japan can carry one to Peking.
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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I remember. One of Clinton's biggest blunders of his many blunders.
Would you mind pointing out the blunder?

1993

North Korea says it has quit the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty amid suspicions that it is developing nuclear weapons. It later reverses that decision.

1994

North Korea and the United States sign an agreement where Pyongyang pledges to freeze and eventually dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for international aid to build two power-producing nuclear reactors.

1998

August: North Korea fires a multistage missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean, proving it can strike any part of Japan's territory.

November: The United States and North Korea hold the first round of high-level talks in Pyongyang over North Korea's suspected construction of an underground nuclear facility. The United States demands inspections.

1999

May: Former Defense Secretary William Perry visits North Korea and delivers a U.S. disarmament proposal.

September 13: North Korea pledges to freeze long-range missile tests.

September 17: President Bill Clinton eases economic sanctions against North Korea.

December: A U.S.-led consortium signs a $4.6 billion contract for two Western-developed light-water nuclear reactors in North Korea.

2000

July: North Korea threatens to restart its nuclear program if Washington doesn't compensate for the loss of electricity caused by delays in building nuclear power plants.

2001

June: North Korea warns it will reconsider its moratorium on missile tests if the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush doesn't resume contacts aimed at normalizing relations.

July: U.S. State Department reports North Korea is going ahead with development of its long-range missile. A Bush administration official says North Korea conducts an engine test of the Taepodong-1 missile.

December: U.S. President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea that they would be "held accountable" if they developed weapons of mass destruction "that will be used to terrorize nations."

2002

January 29: Bush labels North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union address. "By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger," he says.

October: The Bush administration reveals that Pyongyang had admitted operating a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of the 1994 agreement. North Korean officials acknowledged the program after U.S. officials confronted them with evidence.

November: The United States, Japan and South Korea halt oil supplies to North Korea promised under a 1994 deal.

December: North Korea removes IAEA monitoring seals and cameras from its nuclear facilities and expels the watchdog agency's inspectors.

2003

January 10: North Korea withdraws from the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

February 5: North Korea's official news agency says the nation has reactivated its nuclear power facilities.

February 12: The 35-member International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) board of governors declares North Korea in breach of atomic safeguards and refers the case to the U.N. Security Council.

February 24: North Korea test fires a land-to-ship missile into the sea between the Korean Peninsula and Japan.

February 26: The United States says North Korea has reactivated its five-megawatt nuclear reactor at Yongbyon.

March: North Korea test fires a land-to-sea anti-ship missile into the Sea of Japan.

July: A senior U.S. official says North Korea has begun reprocessing spent nuclear fuel rods, suggesting the communist country intends to produce nuclear weapons.

August: The U.S., North Korea, South Korea, China, Japan and Russia take part in talks about the crisis in North Korea.

2004

February: The six nations hold a second round of talks but report little progress, other than agreement to meet again.

June: The U.S., North Korea, South Korea, China, Japan and Russia take part in a third round of talks.

August: North Korea says it will not attend working meetings to prepare for the proposed six-nation summit scheduled in September. North Korea offers to freeze its nuclear program in exchange for aid, easing of sanctions and being removed from the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. The United States wants North Korea to disclose all nuclear activities and allow inspections.

September: Further proposed six-nation talks are postponed indefinitely as the United States and North Korea blame each other for the impasse.

2005

February: North Korea says it will "bolster its nuclear weapons arsenal," in response to what it says are U.S. efforts to topple its government. It is Pyongyang's first public admission it has nuclear weapons.

March: U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says if efforts to persuade North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons program fail, Washington and the international community will pursue "other ways." Meanwhile the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, Mohammed ElBaradei, says North Korea poses more of a nuclear threat than Iran because it already has nuclear material that could go into a weapon.

May: North Korea, in a statement identical to one issued two years earlier, says it has finished extracting 8,000 fuel rods from its reactor at Yongbyon, which it shut down a month ago.

June: North Korea says it has a stockpile of nuclear weapons and is building more, even as it discusses a return to six-party talks on its nuclear program.

July: North Korea says it will return to the talks, due to be held in the week of July 25. Pyongyang joins fourth round of six-party talks, saying it is willing to work towards the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

August: After meeting for 13 straight days, diplomats from the U.S., the two Koreas, China, Japan and Russia decide to take a recess from talks. Prospects for a deal on scrapping North Korea's nuclear program are uncertain, U.S. negotiator Christopher Hill says. Pyongyang hints at compromise after saying it may be willing to offer proof that it does not have a uranium-based weapons program. Talks are put on hold until September.

September: North Korea and the U.S. remain at odds as talks resume, after Pyongyang reiterates its demands to maintain a civilian nuclear program. North Korea agrees to give up its entire nuclear program, including weapons, in return for aid and security guarantees. Later, North Korea says it will only do so if the U.S. provides a light-water reactor for civilian power. The U.S. and Russia reject Pyongyang's demand.

November: The talks hit an impasse after North Korea is angered by U.S. financial restrictions against banks and North Korean companies for their alleged involvement in currency counterfeiting and other illicit activities.

2006

April: North Korea offers to resume talks if U.S. releases frozen North Korean assets originating from a bank in Macau.

July: North Korea test-fires six missiles, including a long-range Taepodong-2 rocket believed capable of reaching western United States. Taepodong rocket fails after 40 seconds, but U.S. denounces tests as "provocative."

October 9: North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reports the country has performed a successful underground nuclear test.

October 14: The U.N. Security Council votes unanimously to impose a wide set of sanctions on North Korea as punishment for the Asian nation's claimed nuclear weapons test. North Korea rejects the resolution and walks out of the security council chamber.

2007

January 22: Envoys to the six-party talks on North Korean nuclear disarmament sound rare notes of optimism, raising hopes for progress after their expected return to the bargaining table in coming weeks.

January 27: North Korea expresses outrage at a British newspaper's report that Pyongyang was sharing its nuclear weapons technology with Iran, dismissing it as a "bid to mislead public opinion."

January 31: Pyongyang will feel compelled to announce plans for another nuclear test if a financial dispute with Washington is not resolved, a source says, a sign of Pyongyang's impatience with a lack of progress in talks.

February 13: North Korea agrees to take first steps toward nuclear disarmament and shut down its main reactor within 60 days before eventually dismantling its atomic weapons program after six-party talks in Beijing.

June: U.S. envoy Christopher Hill travels to North Korea for two days of talks with North Korea's nuclear negotiator in the highest-level U.S. visit to Pyongyang in more than four years. Days earlier, $25 million in North Korean funds that had been frozen since late 2005 were transferred from a Macau, China, bank to a Russian bank where North Korea has an account, as agreed to in February.

September 30: In an agreement signed at the six-party talks in Beijing, North Korea agrees to begin disabling its nuclear weapons facilities and allow a U.S. team, including technical experts, to take the lead in doing so.

October 2-4: North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and Korean President Roh Moo-hyun open talks in Pyongyang, North Korea, in the first summit between the split nations in seven years. Both sides pledge to seek talks to formally end the Korean war.

October: North Korea agrees to disable three nuclear facilities and to declare all of its nuclear programs by the end of the year.

November: The prime ministers of North and South Korea hold a rare meeting.

2008

January: The U.S. declares Pyongyang's failure to declare its nuclear activities after the deadline passes at the end of 2007.

February: South Korea's President Lee Myung-bak stipulates the conditions of nuclear disarmament and improvements in human rights in return for aid to the North.

March 26: South Korean diplomats leave an industrial park their country runs with North Korea after Pyongyang demands their withdrawal.

June 26: Pyongyang declares its nuclear assets, turning over a 60-page document to China that is written in English, detailing several rounds of plutonium production at its Yongbyon plant dating back to 1986.

August 26: North Korea declares it has stopped disabling its nuclear plants and will consider restoring them since the U.S. has not removed it from a list of states that sponsor terrorism.

October 11: The United States removes North Korea from its list of states that sponsor terrorism. December: Following a move by the U.S. to halt energy aid, Pyongyang reduces efforts to dismantle its nuclear program.

2009

January: The North accuses South Korea of "hostile intent" and revokes all military and political agreements with Seoul.

April 5: North Korea initiates what it calls a peaceful launch of a satellite, but the U.S. State Department declares it a "provocative act in violation" of a 2006 Security Council resolution prohibiting North Korea from conducting ballistic missile launches.

April 9: North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il is reappointed as chairman of the National Defense Commission, which oversees the country's military.

April 10: Japan announces it will tighten economic sanctions against North Korea to punish the communist regime for its launch of a rocket.

April 13: The U.N. Security Council adopts a declaration condemning North Korea for launching a long-range rocket, demanding that North Korea make no more launches.

April 14: North Korea vows to walk out on international talks to end its nuclear program after the U.N. Security Council criticizes its launch of a rocket.

April 18: North Korea says any sanctions or pressure applied against it following its recent rocket launch would be considered a "declaration of war."

April: The U.S. vows consequences after Pyongyang expels U.S. nuclear experts, along with U.N. nuclear inspectors following the United Nations' condemnation of North Korea's rocket launch.

April 21: Government officials from South Korea arrive in the North for the first inter-Korean talks in more than a year.

May 25: North Korea conducts its second underground nuclear test, the country's state news agency says.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Baku, Azerbaijan
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I wonder how long the Chinese are going to put up with this serious threat in their back yard. A missile that can carry a nuke to Japan can carry one to Peking.
North Koreans have no reason to bomb China, neither I am sure they have right to even think about bombing any other country.
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