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Old 05-25-2009, 08:32 PM
 
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Well I want to see it on paper with a timeline and numbers.

GM "committed" to paying back those loans, didn't it ?
That is the justification liberals continue to use for claiming Obama is a genius, this will be so profitable, taxpayers will have reduced taxes over the GM bailout..

Well, Obama is planning to forgive the billions and billions of debt.

A rough synopsis..
Obama loans GM money to operate
Obama loans GM money to buy out investors
GM planning to file bankruptcy to get rid of other investors
GM planning to come out of bankruptcy with union ownership
Obama forgives debt

Looks to me like Obama is paying off the unions for their support by using taxpayer money to buy them a car company..
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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OBAMA: "Well, we are out of money now. We are operating in deep deficits, not caused by any decisions we've made on health care so far. This is a consequence of the crisis that we've seen and in fact our failure to make some good decisions on health care over the last several decades.
Does anybody actually listen to what this dolt says? So...all our financial problems are a result of insufficient health care system, and if we had universal health care we would emerge from the red ink.

Can someone please explain to me how this makes any sense? How one relates to the other in our current financial meltdown?

He says SH** like this all the time and people just nodandummmandnodandummm.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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Does anybody actually listen to what this dolt says? So...all our financial problems are a result of insufficient health care system, and if we had universal health care we would emerge from the red ink.

Can someone please explain to me how this makes any sense? How one relates to the other in our current financial meltdown?

He says SH** like this all the time and people just nodandummmandnodandummm.
I have no clue, I've asked earlier in the thread how having universal healthcare would actually save money. Not one response yet..
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Tell me how in the world we are going to see substantially lower costs? Seriously, tell me how? The federal government already dictates the costs to insurance companies for procedures, they already dictate what can be done, they already dictate UCR rates, percentiles, HCFA procedures and rates, tell me how this will result in lowering costs when we have seen nothing but increased cost everytime the government changes laws and dictates actions to the private sector.

Just an FYI, I used to work for a company that processed medical claims for the state prison systems across the country, the reason why the states contracted these out to PRIVATE companies, because it saved money because the private companies are better able to negotiate rates, control costs and still give coverage mandated by the government..

I want to see a valid reason why the government thinks that taking over the health care industry costs will be cut, especially considering that the proposals are for the government to tax everyone, and then continue to outsource the managment of bills to the private sector.. The only thing different is where your bill gets paid..
Any liberal takers willing to tell me exactly how money will be saved?
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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I am willing to bet that Sarah Palin would have been smart enough to know we were broke long ago. Maybe hussein obama should give her a call.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Yup, health care is why we are seeing huge deficits, and unless we spend even more tax dollars on some sort of universal health care, we will go deeper in debt.

Why is the first, last and only solution to this guy, more taxpayer spending, and more federal government control?



Barak 0bama - borrowing our way into prosperity, apologizing our way to victory, and finger pointing to the past, to gain political absolution today.
Darn that Obama...who does this guy think he is. He is trying to match up with the republicans at running up the national debt.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I wonder why Drudge left this out? He took it from another place that left it out, too. Just not enough space on the internet, I guess.
Why did drudge leave that out?
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Orange County
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Obama isn't going to fix anything. He is a puppet. But McCain would have been an equally valuable puppet to the puppet master. This video explains what's really going on. You need a couple of hours to watch it. It's time for us to wake up and quit sitting silently by while we are stripped of our money and our constitutional rights.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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Obama isn't going to fix anything. He is a puppet. But McCain would have been an equally valuable puppet to the puppet master. This video explains what's really going on. You need a couple of hours to watch it. It's time for us to wake up and quit sitting silently by while we are stripped of our money and our constitutional rights.
I love it when what's REALLY going on is only available in videos.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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I love it when what's REALLY going on is only available in videos.
LOL yup and i'm sure the source of the video is from a very credible one, i think the same guy-Alex Jones- who stated that the Bush government destroyed the WTC towers with improvised explosives. The conspiracy theorists alive and kicking.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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Why did drudge leave that out?
Actually his own source left it out, too. I cant imagine how such a thing could happen.
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