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Old 05-26-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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I'm more interested in the consequences of either particularly Iran, which if you have access to a map will amply demonstrate their capability of causing serious problems in two critical areas, Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Lebanon.

As for military strikes... when this issue was a hot button topic, I recall many a story based upon interviews with military planners who very quickly pointed out the difficulty, if not impossibility of destroying Iran's nuclear capability with air strikes alone, keeping in mind that invasion is out of the question based upon Iran's size and population.

With regards to North Korea, the question again becomes what would be Koreas counter move? When that is thought threw, then be my guess and plan your airstrikes and such.
This is the thing in Iran's and NK's case. Everybody is so quick to point out that Obama is doing nothing, but really what can he do. He isn't going to admit that at the moment in time, it just isn't realistic to launch a military offensive at either and especially both of these nations when the U.S is already taxed with two wars. If any conservative states again that they think Obama isn't doing enough, I would appreciate something to back up the statement, like a feasible plan that Obama could incorporate. What I don't want to here is how weak and inexperienced Obama is and that is it. If you think Obama should man up about NK and Iran - tell him how to and back up the statement with something credible - otherwise it's just useless partisan drivel.
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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Can anyone shed some light on a military confrontation with either Iran or NK or both. I mean how would you orchestrate it. Air Strikes? Combo Air Strike and ground or nuclear. Any thoughts?
Let them build their military till they crash, NK and Iran are both in pretty dire economic despair. Keep their form of income low if possible through embargoes and trade disputes maybe even "other" means. Destroy their propaganda machines while providing other means of media or forms of dissent. Continue with missile defense rendering what they do have as useless as possible. Fund any coups or opposing government or governments looking for peaceful means, Iran has some elections coming up. Maximize intelligence. Increase military funding and resources in the area. Get as many allies as possible. Sanctions. Anything and everything but nuclear war. Last but not least we need a charismatic leader to get the people behind it or a serious disaster.


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WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is praising South Korea's decision to join 94 other nations that seek to intercept nuclear, biological and chemical weapons destined for nations such as North Korea.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...IoLWAD98E7F2O0

We should have some allies in the war against nuclear proliferation though we'll be the pocketbook of course.

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Old 05-26-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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This is the thing in Iran's and NK's case. Everybody is so quick to point out that Obama is doing nothing, but really what can he do. He isn't going to admit that at the moment in time, it just isn't realistic to launch a military offensive at either and especially both of these nations when the U.S is already taxed with two wars. If any conservative states again that they think Obama isn't doing enough, I would appreciate something to back up the statement, like a feasible plan that Obama could incorporate. What I don't want to here is how weak and inexperienced Obama is and that is it. If you think Obama should man up about NK and Iran - tell him how to and back up the statement with something credible - otherwise it's just useless partisan drivel.
As long as he stands strong and realizes appeasement is folly he'll be fine, he has the political will. They give no quarters, they only seek them.

One thing for sure is the ludicris bill that doesn't spend out for 4-6 years should be redacted and a better focus on military spending would do. In fact it'll probably be required.
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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As long as he stands strong and realizes appeasement is folly he'll be fine, he has the political will. They give no quarters, they only seek them.
And the say that Obama is long on empty rhetoric!

Now what in the hell does standing strong and what exactly is there to appease, North Koreas annexation of Mongolia?

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One thing for sure is the ludicris bill that doesn't spend out for 4-6 years should be redacted and a better focus on military spending would do. In fact it'll probably be required.
see above.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Baku, Azerbaijan
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Well I for one am glad they can't hit New York, yet, but if things get hot, say goodbye to California and Hollywood.
Explosion of even 1 nuclear warhead would be disastrous for whole planet taking into consideration the following inevitable chain reaction.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: T E X A S
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Explosion of even 1 nuclear warhead would be disastrous for whole planet taking into consideration the following inevitable chain reaction.
Yeah, the chain reaction is the worst part. You wouldn't throw a pebble at someone who just threw a boulder at you.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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Increase military funding and resources in the area..
I liked some of your ideas... but this one NO! The U.S spends far more than any nation on military expenditures and is broke! Personally, I think the U.S should focus on rebuilding its inner core at home - i don't want it to spread too thin - and become another Roman Empire.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Baku, Azerbaijan
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Yeah, the chain reaction is the worst part. You wouldn't throw a pebble at someone who just threw a boulder at you.
Exactly, dear TexanByBirth!

And no matter how many warheads you have. One launch can cause WWIII !!!

List of states with nuclear weapons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Texas...and proud of it.
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Default Thank you Obama.

“The Korean People’s Army will not be bound to the Armistice Agreement any longer,” the official Korean Central News Agency said in a statement today.

North Korea Threatens Armed Strike, End to Armistice (Update1) - Bloomberg.com
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind in his long climb from the swamp to the stars, and it's been said if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening.
Thank god the balls grew....
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