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Old 05-26-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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There were those that railed against interracial marriage just as there are those that rail against same sex marriage. I did not say EVERYONE, I said "I get the feeling that many here". In my view it's very much the same argument.
There's no connection whatsoever between inter racial marriages and homosexual marriage; just due to the fact that black Americans themselves are overwhelmingly opposed to gay marriage. I don't get how you are connecting those dots.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yeah, 'cause gays can't sit at the same lunch counter as whites, gays have to drink from sepaprate water fountains then whites, gays have to give up their seats in busses to whites, gays have water houses and German Shepherds unleashed at them during their peaceful marches.

You're making a HUGE mistake equating the civil rights era of the 60's to the issue of sexual preference. It was the black community in California that passed prop 8 in the 1st place. Silly little leftist.
This has been debunked. Do your homework.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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There's no connection whatsoever between inter racial marriages and homosexual marriage; just due to the fact that black Americans themselves are overwhelmingly opposed to gay marriage. I don't get how you are connecting those dots.
Polling suggests that minorities loathe likening gay marriage to interracial marriage.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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This has been debunked. Do your homework.
No it has not. Look at any poll, and you will see that both the black community and the Hispanic community are overwhelmingly against gay marriage.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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It would be nice if less government benefits were unrelated to marital status...

We aren't smart enough for that...
I've held that position from day one in regards to the "gay" issue.

The states have the right to limit or allow gay marriages, just like the states have the right to limit other "believed" rights..

The issue where gays lose the debate is they dont understand that citizens do have the right to limit who can marry who. We dont allow family members to marry family members, multiple spouses are just two examples.

Gays would be able to move further on the issue if they focused their effort on removing the federal government from the "marriage" situation completely.. The federal government dictating what "marriage" is, violates the constitution and contradicts the states rights to decide for themself what each state deems what "marriage" consists of..
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Polling suggests that minorities loathe likening gay marriage to interracial marriage.
As well as comparing gay marriage to the civil rights movement of the 60's. This infuriates many black Americans. The dems better be very careful.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No it has not. Look at any poll, and you will see that both the black community and the Hispanic community are overwhelmingly against gay marriage.
They are not the sole reason it passed though.
You can't pin the passing of Prop 8 on the blacks and hispanics.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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As well as comparing gay marriage to the civil rights movement of the 60's. This infuriates many black Americans. The dems better be very careful.
Speaking of Democrats, Approximately 2 Million Obama Voters also Voted Yes on 8.

Obama 8,274,473
McCain 5,011,781

Yes on 8: 7,001,084
No on 8: 6,401,482
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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Speaking of Democrats, Approximately 2 Million Obama Voters also Voted Yes on 8.

Obama 8,274,473
McCain 5,011,781

Yes on 8: 7,001,084
No on 8: 6,401,482
Only Democrats voted for Obama? News to me.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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I have no words for this.

Go figure that America is the only country that is still sitting here fighting over gay rights and abortion and national health care. We are falling behind fighting over these things. China and India are advancing and this country is sitting here fighting over this. We are going to be left behind the more we sit here and argue about this.

Yes, it is true. This country is focused too much on "me me me" and "I I I". Just because I think gay marriage is gross, I will stop them from marrying in a country that is supposed to be free.

Thanks to some of these people, America is being held back from becoming a more modern and progressive country. Look at Canada, Sweden. They don't have any trouble with gay marriage. They all have national health care and Canada has NO RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION. They don't sit there arguing and crying about it.

Why do we as Americans have a problem if a gay man can marry another man? Being gay is a not a choice. You really think people want to be gay and be shunned by family and society and then in the end be denied the chance to marry the person they love? You really think someone would pick this? You really think that it is a fun choice to pick and be discriminated against? You really think that it is funny or ok or acceptable when a lesbian cannot see her partner of 30 or 40 years because of the "me me me" and "I I I"? No, it is not. Not in a country where everyone is supposed to be free!

This is a shame. A downright shame.
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