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Old 05-26-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Here we go again..... It's all due to Republicans or Democrat failings... No it isn't.... it is that the people in Office, regardless of party, are not doing their job properly. Nothing is ever going to be fixed while this them and us attitude exists.
Exactly!!! Regardless of party, the people themselves are screwing everyone over. I think the people of California are finally starting to wise up and hopefully we will see some changes in voting.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Seems so

Now when is Detroit going to wake up and say hey democrats havent done jack lets try some republican policies
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:30 PM
 
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how is calilfornia current woes the property of the left?
who do you think let those 21 million illegals into the country and shipped all our jobs overseas, karl marx?
its liberals that want to give illegals benefits, conservatives would just have them suffer and starve.. That is what liberals proclaim about conservatives, we're so full of hate for the poor..
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Well the people voted for these people...
They also voted in to have 2/3 of the legislature agree on the budget...
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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its liberals that want to give illegals benefits, conservatives would just have them suffer and starve.. That is what liberals proclaim about conservatives, we're so full of hate for the poor..
Both Libs and Dems have pandered to ILLEGALS. Wasn't Regan the man who gave the amnisty to illegals that failed to stop ILLEGAL immigration.
This Partisan attitude gets everyone NO WHERE!
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Both Libs and Dems have pandered to ILLEGALS. Wasn't Regan the man who gave the amnisty to illegals that failed to stop ILLEGAL immigration.
This Partisan attitude gets everyone NO WHERE!

I'm a liberal and I want all the illegal immigrants to be deported ASAP. I want the benefits to stop and I want all the loopholes closed. I want stricter regulations on welfare/foodstamps/WIC/etc etc that require drug testing.

Many liberals I know feel the same way.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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I'm a liberal and I want all the illegal immigrants to be deported ASAP. I want the benefits to stop and I want all the loopholes closed. I want stricter regulations on welfare/foodstamps/WIC/etc etc that require drug testing.

Many liberals I know feel the same way.
YES!

Including me!

Not all liberals want free handouts and want everyone on welfare.

I want all illegals GONE and people who get welfare to take test and show they are trying to find a job and work!
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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With California in its economic situation, and with the recent Prop 8 voting, the turning down of increased taxes, is California waking up to understand that liberalism creates more problems than it fixes?

Poverty, education, jobs, economic development just several examples..
Paul Krugman has a different take...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/25/op...gman.html?_r=1
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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I am a Brit and my wife is American. I didn't feel i had any special rights to live in America and i stood in line and paid my dues. ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL. When are the govts going to get it that ILLEGALS are not wanted in America. Humanitarianism should start in the country that the ILLEGAL is running away from NOT America.
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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how are calilfornia current woes the property of the left?
who do you think let those 21 million illegals into the country and shipped all our jobs overseas, karl marx?
Just in hospitals alone illegals have bankrupt many in CA.
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