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Old 11-04-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta suburbs
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Homosexuality is no more a 'disorder' than my having been born female.
Homosexuality is not normal and indeed defies nature. Otherwise we'd all be born one gender with the ability to reproduce.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: California
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You don't know much about legal marriage do you?

When you get your marriage license, and both parties sign it, and its notarized, you are married, period. No ceremony needed.

The vows are just for show.

You can go before any priest in the country and take marriage vows, without a license, it means nothing legally.
I'm sorry you must be misreading the post I was talking about Civil Unions on a federal level.
I never said anyone need a ceremony for anything.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:52 PM
 
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BS if that’s the case then why haven't you Homosexuals went after Federal Civil Unions with all of the same rights as marriage?

Why do you try to fight for each state when the President of the United States of America is offering his endorsement for every right you claim you want?
Again, this has NOTHING to do with religious marriage. Civil marriage is a civil law that provides civil legal rights - it is not religious (it can't be).

As to the Civil Union/Marriage semantic debate - frankly, I could care less what you want to call it.

What people take issue with is why would you call an identical legal right one thing for one classification of people and another thing for a different classification of people. Why in god's name would we start using different legal terms for the same thing simply because they are being taken advantage of by different people.

When I get a drivers license, I'm given the legal rights that come with being able to drive. In the law we don't codify various equivalent terms by calling it a drivers license for straight white males, an automotive permission permit for black lesbians, a locomotion allowance slip for left-handed bisexual Asian midgets, etc, etc, etc.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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Homosexuality is not normal and indeed defies nature. Otherwise we'd all be born one gender with the ability to reproduce.
What a horribly naive understanding of biology.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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I didn't say that, YOU DID.
Homosexuality is a disorder and instead of accepting it as the norm. it should be treated.
Homosexuality is no longer considered to be a disorder, how can it be treated?
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta suburbs
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What a horribly naive understanding of biology.
No, that's a fact.

Explain your opposition to what I said.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: NE Atlanta suburbs
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Again, this has NOTHING to do with religious marriage. Civil marriage is a civil law that provides civil legal rights - it is not religious (it can't be).

As to the Civil Union/Marriage semantic debate - frankly, I could care less what you want to call it.

What people take issue with is why would you call an identical legal right one thing for one classification of people and another thing for a different classification of people. Why in god's name would we start using different legal terms for the same thing simply because they are being taken advantage of by different people.

When I get a drivers license, I'm given the legal rights that come with being able to drive. In the law we don't codify various equivalent terms by calling it a drivers license for straight white males, an automotive permission permit for black lesbians, a locomotion allowance slip for left-handed bisexual Asian midgets, etc, etc, etc.
So you're saying you don't care that it's called "civil union" or "marriage"?
Then what is all the fuss about???
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:02 PM
 
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Except gays and lesbians DON'T "have equal access as defined by the Constitution" in too many states in this country. You can marry the person YOU choose for yourself. They cannot.
I don't have the right to marry whomever I want. Where did you hear that?
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No, that's a fact.

Explain your opposition to what I said.
Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While I don't like Wiki, this is just the quickest easiest way. Want better sources, google it yourself, I doubt you will might shake your foundation.

Homosexuality has benefits to human society. Men and women not producing more of a burden on the community, but only offering work to supply. Perhaps they evolved more from large families, where one member who helped raise the children of the others, without producing their own was beneficial.

Lots of reasons why there are homosexuals, and loads of creatures other than humans that exhibit the behavior.

Its NATURAL
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:04 PM
 
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No, that's a fact.

Explain your opposition to what I said.
Well, first off your statement makes little sense:

"Homosexuality is not normal and indeed defies nature. Otherwise we'd all be born one gender with the ability to reproduce."

The first statement is just patently incorrect. Homosexuality is normal, and is found throughout nature - every higher animal species it's been looked for in exhibits some degree of homosexuality.

Your conclusion (based on a false premise) just makes no sense:

Homosexuality defies nature because if it didn't we'd be a species of singular gender capable of asexual reproduction.

What????????????????? Regardless of the correctness of your homosexuality and nature premise, the second part is just a wackadoodle conclusion.
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