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Old 05-31-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Religious zealotry and the crisis of American democracy
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Or, more interestingly, just WHO or WHAT is Gog and Magog?
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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Ivins a lifelong alcoholic and comedienne....to take her seriously is a laugh, ha ha...
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And Bush was a drunk...what's your point? Take him seriously? Now that is a
laugh! Almost as funny as listening to an Oxy-Contin addict comedian.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Ivins a lifelong alcoholic and comedienne....to take her seriously is a laugh, ha ha...
If you have never read her, and even if you never do, take a look at the documented research that went into her books the next time you get near a library or bookstore before you dismiss her work out of hand.

You might walk away astonished at the amount of work she did. She didn't just make things up to be telling stories.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Or, more interestingly, just WHO or WHAT is Gog and Magog?
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You've got the OP, the Bible and Google...knock yourself out.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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You've got the OP, the Bible and Google...knock yourself out.

No need, did the didactics decades ago.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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If you have never read her, and even if you never do, take a look at the documented research that went into her books the next time you get near a library or bookstore before you dismiss her work out of hand.

You might walk away astonished at the amount of work she did. She didn't just make things up to be telling stories.

If you know anything about an alcoholics' worldview, her predicament came across loud and clear. Though will admit she was funny!
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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If you know anything about an alcoholics' worldview, her predicament came across loud and clear. Though will admit she was funny!
Considering Bush went from an alcoholic to dispensationalist fundamentalist, we have both rolled into one.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:47 PM
 
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Considering Bush went from an alcoholic to dispensationalist fundamentalist, we have both rolled into one.

I have no fondness or respect for Bush. His wife evidently gave him an ultimatum on the drinking. So went from one addiction to another apparently. (Not that Christianity is an addiction, but how it is played out in one's life. Just as food is not the addiction, but how it is used.)

Poor Molly didn't get help til it was too late.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If you know anything about an alcoholics' worldview, her predicament came across loud and clear. Though will admit she was funny!
I have 23 years sobriety, and put away a half gallon of 90 proof bourbon a day for six months before I got help. I know a little, yes.

What does that have to do with the accuracy of her work and the documentation of same?
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