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Old 05-30-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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Add that to the 45% of all Americans who are not paying a single dime in taxes and we have gone to far.
I'm guessing that "all Americans" includes children and the elderly/retired. Do you want to tax them, too? Or are they also "lazy bums"?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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52.6% of Americans are lazy bums? LMAO!!!!

52.6% were getting welfare in 2008.

Only a lazy bum accepts welfare unless they have health issues that prevent them from working.

Most welfare cases are healthy enough to work.
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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I'm guessing that "all Americans" includes children and the elderly/retired. Do you want to tax them, too? Or are they also "lazy bums"?
No, Obama will be doing that soon!!!
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:07 PM
 
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So you would rather get medical services when your for-profit insurance company deems that you need them?

Noone is talking about "banning" private insurance. *Noone*. The idea is to offer a public plan. If you would rather pay more for your private insurance noone will stop you.
Please don't fall for this line of BS. In theory, you're correct that the (D)'s Healthcare plan will not formally outlaw Private Insurance. But, the tables will be so tilted (be it fines, lower rates for the Public Plan, etc) that, over time, the balance of power will shift more and more towards the Government Healthcare plan. It may never get to the stage where ALL private Healthcare Insurance ceases to exist, but Government's control over the Healthcare will continue to grow with time.

A LOT of people are going to lose the private Healthcare insurance that most of them are very happy with.
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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No, Obama will be doing that soon!!!
Wait - you were saying that the 45% of all Americans who didn't pay taxes puts us over the top. It sounds to me like YOU want them to pay taxes. Is that not true? If not, what's your purpose in quoting that figure? Shouldn't you be quoting a figure which only includes working people who aren't paying taxes (not sure how large a figure that is).
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:08 PM
 
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52.6% were getting welfare in 2008.

Only a lazy bum accepts welfare unless they have health issues that prevent them from working.

Most welfare cases are healthy enough to work.
Just rollin'..............

Keep 'em comin', SD.
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:09 PM
 
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Because it is a basic right to have healthcare & to be healthy. That's hard for you to understand apparently. And skipping a latte won't make much of a dent in someone's insurance bill now will it? Geez, come up w/something more relatable please, that was ridiculous.
No it's not; which article and section of the Constitution says this?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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52.6% were getting welfare in 2008.

Only a lazy bum accepts welfare unless they have health issues that prevent them from working.

Most welfare cases are healthy enough to work.
I think your statistics are a little skewed. Could you post a link to prove this?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:13 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Wait - you were saying that the 45% of all Americans who didn't pay taxes puts us over the top. It sounds to me like YOU want them to pay taxes. Is that not true? If not, what's your purpose in quoting that figure? Shouldn't you be quoting a figure which only includes working people who aren't paying taxes (not sure how large a figure that is).

Do not put words into my mouth.

45% DO NOT PAY A DIME INTO THE TAX BASE.

Every single person 18 to retirement should pay something INTO the system.

And yes, check it out, 45% is correct. That is why Obama was lying when he said 95% of all Americans would get a tax break. What he kinda lied to you about is it is impossible since almost half do not pay a dime into it so they surely the heck cannot get a break.
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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No it's not; which article and section of the Constitution says this?

They believe everyone has a right to everything free!
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