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Old 05-29-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Whew, am I glad I don't personally know anyone as selfish & hateful as some of you. Imagine, getting upset about making sure all of your fellow citizens have healthcare, just as you do. How much of a jerk off view of life is that? God forbid any of you actually give a rats butt about others, you're too busy being ****** off. Man, I am such a better person than some of you & I'm so glad I am. And I'm so glad my friends & family are better than you too, makes my life just that much sweeter.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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So, you support the private sector taking control of police, fire and the military?

(It's a yes or no question.)

sure. fedex does a better job than the post office. the biggest difference between the government and the private sector, is if the private sector fails, they go out of business. when the government fails, they just extort more money.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I have broken several bones without going to the doctor. I fractured my skull, which I am sure is obvious by some of my posts, and I didn't go to the doctor. I used a stapler and super glue to put my head back together. I found out about it when I thought I was going to die because my blood pressure was so high. they gave me a MRI and discovered the skull fracture. if I was on my death bed, I might go to the doctor, but I can live in pain. plus I do have $4000 handy, and if people don't, they need to manage their finances better.
Yeah, ok
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:41 PM
 
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But I like the right to universal affordable healthcare as well.
Whether or not you like it is moot. I like the right to free Cheezits.

Just because we like something doesn't mean the government should provide it at the expense of the taxpayers.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Yeah, ok
excellent, well thought out response. the emoticon queen.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Three very different services compared to a doctor's visit. Your house burns to the ground, the fire department (tax dollars) doesn't buy you a new house. Your house is burglarized, the police department (tax dollars) doesn't replace your door or windows. So why should universal health coverage (taxpayer dollars) pay for unclogging your arteries when you have a heart attack?
You do realize that diseases fall on people who are perfectly healthy, right? It's not just those whose lifestyle you disapprove of.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Lets first get back to the basics:

. The poor already have healthcare insurance as well (although the ultimate goal is to take them out of poverty).
I'm taking that you are talking about Medicaid? Well, let me put it this way: the income level for people to be eligible for Medicaid is so ridiculous that most people (at least those who live in places with high cost of living) are not eligible for it. Further they are not able to afford private health insurance either, too expensive. Often those same unfortunate people don't have jobs with health benefits. What are we supposed to do for them? Let them die? Here is an example:
Medicaid

Now tell me how is a family of 4 supposed to survive on less than $15K a year? Oh wait, if you read lower here it extended benefits to those who make up to a little over $22K (family of 4), wow, so someone making $25K a year go on and get your own insurance.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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excellent, well thought out response. the emoticon queen.
:cr ying:
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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I have broken several bones without going to the doctor. I fractured my skull, which I am sure is obvious by some of my posts, and I didn't go to the doctor. I used a stapler and super glue to put my head back together. I found out about it when I thought I was going to die because my blood pressure was so high. they gave me a MRI and discovered the skull fracture. if I was on my death bed, I might go to the doctor, but I can live in pain. plus I do have $4000 handy, and if people don't, they need to manage their finances better.
What other functions of government should be based on your personal experiences?

Let's try my experience. Since I single-handedly subdued an attacker, no one is afforded police protection/response. I like it! Since I own fire extinguishers and a garden hose, all fire departments are now closed. I like it, I like it!!!
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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Whether or not you like it is moot. I like the right to free Cheezits.

Just because we like something doesn't mean the government should provide it at the expense of the taxpayers.
Very true! I know! We'll just solve our differences at the ballot box.

I'm going to vote for and promote universal single payer healthcare and you can vote for and promote whatever free market, libertarian, answer to that you can come up with.
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