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President Obama and I disagree on what is job stimulus. Job stimulus to me isn't temporary jobs no matter what kind of jobs they are. That's why when he talks about "green jobs" you need to look at how many of those jobs will disappear after a few months (once the "green thing" is built/put in place). I'm pretty sure that's what other countries like Spain with their 17.4% unemployment rate found out after they went green.
As far as him rewarding negative behavior, he won the election, he can do what he wants. I just think he shouldn't be allowed to take credit for it as stimulus job creation because it's not that.
I think of it as providing an opportunity to someone who might not otherwise get one because of past mistakes. But you say tomato
OK. Make mistakes. Get rewarded. You foolish kids who did the right thing can't even apply for these jobs; they are reserved for others who could not or would not do the right thing...
OK. Make mistakes. Get rewarded. You foolish kids who did the right thing can't even apply for these jobs; they are reserved for others who could not or would not do the right thing...
I don't why people find this so shocking. It's the same as when companies getting tax breaks when they employ felons. Bottom line is most companies would not give these people a chance because of prior mistakes they've made in their lives which pretty much means they'll either end up not working or working a crappy job - then your tax dollars will be going toward their food stamps and medicaid. By doing it this way they're being provided an opportunity, if they don't take it or they screw it up nothing is lost.
If we're going to have the mindset "oh you've made a mistake too damn bad yo deserve nothing" then we might as well start executing people instead of locking them up.
I don't why people find this so shocking. It's the same as when companies getting tax breaks when they employ felons. Bottom line is most companies would not give these people a chance because of prior mistakes they've made in their lives which pretty much means they'll either end up not working or working a crappy job - then your tax dollars will be going toward their food stamps and medicaid. By doing it this way they're being provided an opportunity, if they don't take it or they screw it up nothing is lost.
If we're going to have the mindset "oh you've made a mistake too damn bad yo deserve nothing" then we might as well start executing people instead of locking them up.
Typical liberal hyperbole... I am against the death penalty in all cases.
There is something lost here. The young person that did not participate in any of these deviant behaviors does not have the opportunity to even apply for one of these government funded summer jobs. No one is saying that they young people who have made these mistakes, "deserve nothing". What irks many is that the mistakes they make are rewarded with government paid summer jobs....
If one of your kids is a high school or college student, you probably know that summer jobs are scarce this summer. As part of the Obama stimulus, Massachusetts got $1.3M for summer jobs, but the program has some interesting limitations:
The state Department of Transitional Assistance will be using some of Massachusetts’ $1.3 million in Obama administration cash for jobs for clients’ children ages 14 to 24 who meet specific criteria, including:
• Lacking basic skills. • Pregnant or parenting. • School dropout. • Homeless or runaway. • Court-involved or an “offender.” • An English as a Second Language learner or an immigrant
Lack of even basic skills. Pregnant or parenting with, much more often than not, illegitimate children. Dropped out of school and, more often than not, lacking the cognitive ability to graduate even if they had not dropped out. More often than not, involved in the criminal justice system.
Most of these folks do not have the ability to even produce what they need to survive and must be carried in one way or another at least to a level where they are able to survive. I suppose putting them to work is better than letting them sit around but I'll bet most employers will find that its just not worth it even if they don't have to pay them anything.
However, these people must always be carried. This problem will not be solved with any amount of money. These are the people that Obama wants to help. However, employing these people will always cost employers more than they are worth no matter what they are paid.
Our schools have 'special education' classes attempting to educate folks at the lower end of the IQ scale but 'advanced placement' classes are disappearing. Carrying these people is ok to a degree but this country had better start taking better care of its best and brightest. If we don't we will continue our slide to mediocrity.
Thats the democrat strategy...a hand out instead of a hand up
Giving out money with no strings attached is a hand out (e.g. where did all the money from Bush's bail-out go?). Giving money to employers to give honest jobs to those in need is a hand up. Heh do you even think things through before you generalize "the democrat strategy"?
However, these people must always be carried. This problem will not be solved with any amount of money. These are the people that Obama wants to help. However, employing these people will always cost employers more than they are worth no matter what they are paid.
There is one good solution. These people must always be carried but they don't have to continue to breed like stray cats. Welfare handouts of any kind should be tied to some kind of long term birth control or sterilization.
well if that's all you feel I'm saying then there's really no point in continuing the discussion is there?
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