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Old 05-30-2009, 04:39 PM
 
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As America becomes more diverse over time, which it will and the religious influences of the past become less and less - which will also happen. What will an Athiest or Buddhist President elect (as examples) swear on if they refuse to swear over the Bible during innauguration. I believe it is not a Contitutional requirement as the Founders in their wisdom forseen this

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The Presidential oath of office is described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution:
  • Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
however what would be your reaction to a President-elect refusing to swear over the bible? What will be your reaction when they do not say "So help me god"

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Old 05-30-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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If they could get the country moving in the right direction again (i.e. straighten out the economy and bring the wars to a close), I couldn't care less what they swear in on.
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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if they could get the country moving in the right direction again (i.e. Straighten out the economy and bring the wars to a close), i couldn't care less what they swear in on.
lol - cool
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:22 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure we've had a couple closet atheist Presidents already
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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As America becomes more diverse over time, which it will and the religious influences of the past become less and less - which will also happen. What will an Athiest or Buddhist President elect (as examples) swear on if they refuse to swear over the Bible during innauguration. I believe it is not a Contitutional requirement as the Founders in their wisdom forseen this

Swearing on the Bible.




The Presidential oath of office is described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution:
  • Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
however what would be your reaction to a President-elect refusing to swear over the bible? What will be your reaction when they do not say "So help me god"
Have you seen a head count of the numbers of the Founders who took part in that first government. It seems to me that they as both writers of the Constitution and taking part in the beginning of the government must have been able to see that most Americans were, indeed, Christians. They allowed the use of the Holy Bible at swearing in ceremonies and the words of So help me God to be included after the swearing in.

I think that the real movement away from Christians in government has a tendency to go along with the secular movement in this country. Secularism was not a movement in the year 1787 but came on much later. I see the secular movement as a strong part of the movement toward the too far left government we have right now. I think that the secularists needed their movement to keep liberals united and they have managed to keep things going with all the promises about free this and that but wonder how much longer it will continue.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:20 PM
 
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As America becomes more diverse over time, which it will and the religious influences of the past become less and less - which will also happen. What will an Athiest or Buddhist President elect (as examples) swear on if they refuse to swear over the Bible during innauguration. I believe it is not a Contitutional requirement as the Founders in their wisdom forseen this

Swearing on the Bible.




The Presidential oath of office is described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution:
  • Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
however what would be your reaction to a President-elect refusing to swear over the bible? What will be your reaction when they do not say "So help me god"
Perhaps if we have a Taoist President they can swear in on the Tao of Pooh
The Tao of Pooh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:25 PM
 
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Perhaps if we have a Taoist President they can swear in on the Tao of Pooh
The Tao of Pooh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I love that book

I'm pretty positive there has been quite a few Atheist and ESPECIALLY Agnostic presidents over the years. It's basically political suicide to say you are an Atheist, which is definitely apparent when you look at the representation we get in politics. I believe there is only one self proclaimed Agnostic in the whole of representatives (Pete Stark in CA).
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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Perhaps if we have a Taoist President they can swear in on the Tao of Pooh
The Tao of Pooh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
LOL

one thing i find interesting in this


Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Will the HE prove to be an obstacle to a she....
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:39 PM
 
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If they could get the country moving in the right direction again (i.e. straighten out the economy and bring the wars to a close), I couldn't care less what they swear in on.
Same here.

But I'd prefer an athiest over a Buddhist or Islamic.
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:45 PM
 
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Same here.

But I'd prefer an athiest over a Buddhist or Islamic.
That is unfortunate if the qualified candidate had those religious viewpoints. The key here is that religion is a personal matter and should not be connected with the candidate politically.

personally, i'd prefer an agnostic over an athiest - but i would vote the athiest if i more subscribed to his or her views on the issues..
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