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Negative? putting the stamp of approval on abnormal relationships.
Um, this is exactly what the OP was saying shouldn't be a response.
This is a legitimate question asking what direct harm gay marriages cause. Clearly you have no evidence of any direct harm so you just say that gay relationships are abnormal and that it somehow harms a family of four in Des Moines if a gay couple gets married in Cedar Falls...but it doesn't and you clearly know that. You are just offended by gays and it makes you feel icky...
Marriage is defined as a natural biological and spiritual union between one man and one woman. If it were not, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Were I married myself, the definition of the relationship that I would have with my wife would also define me as the husband of a wife. Furthermore, it would define the offspring we created though the exclusive sexual relationship of our marriage. It would also define our family structure. Your alternative and unnatural sexual union with a member of your own gender being defined in identical terms to the natural one trespasses on the definition of both marriage and family. You are not free to alter the definition my family and of the union I share with my wife (someday) any more than you are free to paint my house. If it doesn't suit your needs, move on because it isn't yours to change.
How many countless groups in the history of the world have been oppressed. Let's not get into the whole history of tradition nonsense that your side always wants to emotionally grapple onto. For pete sake how many slaves have there been in all of history? How many women not treated equally and not even allowed to vote in a democracy? In India many people can't marry who they want it is an arrangement - shall we continue this historical precedent? It meets stringent marriage definitions requirements though - actually according to some it is a superior system as it eliminates emotion and fulfils the family need to carry on successors best suited to meet the family's caste status. But is it right?? Your definition of marriage is one of many! With such a rigid definition though, what is the logic than in a couple divorcing as it only serves to appease emotion. If two married people can produce offspring and they meet the requirements of your definition than why should society permit divorce? It all boils down to this, if societal laws permit infringement on the rights of some groups, it always leaves the door open for others' rights to be infringed upon.
Furthermore, people always attack gay marriage because they feel it opens the door to other groups - namely children. Let's be clear virtually nobody except those that want to violate the rights of a citizen who not yet is able to make the same choices as an adult deserve to not recieve equal treatment under the law because they are infringing on child rights! Gay marriage has always been about consensual adults and never about involving children. Any such correlation is nonsensical, imaginative and emotional delirium.
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As for how has it negatively effected me, I have a 6 yr old who has asked 10000 questions including "why are those men kissing" IMO this effects me negatively as I don't belive in it and should not have to explain it to my son. I
Aww... You poor thing.
Part of being a responsible parent is having to explain things to your children - even things that you find embarrassing or complicated. The world doesn't exist to please you.
If you don't want to explain it to your son, just tell him you're uncomfortable talking about it or change the subject. Chances are that he'll be more enlightened about human sexuality by the time he's 15 years old than you are now. He'll probably be able to educate you someday.
Part of being a responsible parent is having to explain things to your children - even things that you find embarrassing or complicated. The world doesn't exist to please you.
If you don't want to explain it to your son, just tell him you're uncomfortable talking about it or change the subject. Chances are that he'll be more enlightened about human sexuality by the time he's 15 years old than you are now. He'll probably be able to educate you someday.
Part of being a responsible parent is having to explain things to your children - even things that you find embarrassing or complicated. The world doesn't exist to please you.
If you don't want to explain it to your son, just tell him you're uncomfortable talking about it or change the subject. Chances are that he'll be more enlightened about human sexuality by the time he's 15 years old than you are now. He'll probably be able to educate you someday.
Part of being a responsible parent is having to explain things to your children - even things that you find embarrassing or complicated. The world doesn't exist to please you.
If you don't want to explain it to your son, just tell him you're uncomfortable talking about it or change the subject. Chances are that he'll be more enlightened about human sexuality by the time he's 15 years old than you are now. He'll probably be able to educate you someday.
We'll see how long I get to stay this time around. I better not be too liberal.
DOH!!!
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