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Old 06-02-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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In 1991, when Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, he pledged allegiance to something called the Black Value System, which is a code of non-Biblical ethics written by blacks, for blacks.
Yes, i've read them on TUCC's website.
They're right there for all to see... or at least they were a few months ago.
I've got no problem with any of them.
They don't seem all that controversial.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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As for 'putting our troops in more harms way', the numbers speak for themselves.
U.S. Casualties in Iraq

January 2008 through May 2008 - 177 U.S. casualties in Iraq

January 2009 through May 2009 - 80 U.S. casualties in Iraq

I wish the number were zero but a 55% decrease in U.S. caualties in Iraq since President Obama has been in office is noteworthy.

Wow!!

Looking at your numbers I can see you tried to hide the fact that Obama has had more casualties in May (21) then we have had for 8 months.

Guess he is not doing to well considering you making him out like he was doing so well.

BUSH gets credit for the surge that Obama said would NOT work and bringing down the number of casualties.

You do remember Obama being against the surge right?

Your Spender in Chief is not doing so well now that we have all of the numbers.

And I thought we was bringing them home??? Guess not.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:54 PM
 
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[quote=Sunny-Days90;9108101]Wow!!

Looking at your numbers I can see you tried to hide the fact that Obama has had more casualties in May (21) then we have had for 8 months.

This would be why not Liberal MsM death total counters for soldiers.

Guess he is not doing to well considering you making him out like he was doing so well.

BUSH gets credit for the surge that Obama said would NOT work and bringing down the number of casualties


You do remember Obama being against the surge right?


Your Spender in Chief is not doing so well now that we have all of the numbers.

And I thought we was bringing them home??? Guess not.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Anyone paying attention knows that President Obama pledged to bring our troops home from Iraq as
soon as it was expedient, and only with the advice of military leaders. He is doing exactly as he said he would, as well as working to expand our operations in Afghanistan, where anyone paying attention would know there has been an upswing in Taliban violence. Bush gets credit for ignoring FBI warnings about suspect activity prior to 9/11, then beginning a preemptive war against a country that had done nothing to us. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you could explain to us why Iraq was attacked, and the Saudi royal family maintained close ties with the Bush
family despite that fact? Some, however, excel at attacks but are not so adept at defense.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:09 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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I think you should analyze the reasons why there are 'america' haters to begin with. America has not had a typically hands off policy in the middle east for decades. This breeds much contempt and hatred towards the U.S. Look at U.S involvement in Iraq, Iran and so forth. Obama is the first President who is actively engaging the people of the Middle East on a personal level. I think this worries organizations such as Al Quada because a U.S President who wants to engage the people of the middle east and presumptively have a decreasing involvement in the affairs of middle eastern countries does not play into Al Quada's cards.

The U.S is better suited, especially at this time in its history to decapitate imperialistic ventures and deal with problems at home. The secondary benefit - a lot less contempt for a far away country that doesn't mettle in their affairs. How many Norway haters or China haters or Russia Haters or France haters or Germany haters are there?
ok, so I guess we can all ignore the history from WWII, right? We kept our mouths shut, let the ememy build up their arms, make threat and then sustain an unprovoked attack. Don't you understand if they had a rocket or missile today that could reach us they would fire it? When these countries openly state that the destruction of the USA is their goal instead of feeding their poor, educating women and promoting peace we cannot stand by and wait to be attacked. That was the mistake the most famous lib made. We sat there and watched our fellow democratic countries be torn apart by Germany and watched as Japan invaded every island in the south Pacific. Get this straight, they hate crhistians and jews and that is why they hate us. We are the largest christian nation and we support Isreal. So go to Iran wearing a "I love the USA shirt" or "christian and proud of it" and see how far you get with your head on your shoulders. Oh, and Obama was a muslim until he decided to marry, at that point he went to church and embraced the white hater from of christianity.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:18 PM
 
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Anyone paying attention knows that President Obama pledged to bring our troops home from Iraq as
soon as it was expedient, and only with the advice of military leaders. He is doing exactly as he said he would, as well as working to expand our operations in Afghanistan, where anyone paying attention would know there has been an upswing in Taliban violence. Bush gets credit for ignoring FBI warnings about suspect activity prior to 9/11, then beginning a preemptive war against a country that had done nothing to us. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you could explain to us why Iraq was attacked, and the Saudi royal family maintained close ties with the Bush
family despite that fact? Some, however, excel at attacks but are not so adept at defense.
And what of Bill Clinton ignoring and not capturing or killing osama??? He aborted every time they had him in their sights!
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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So its agreed then...every Administration is guilty of playing nice with Muslim bad guys...!
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:24 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Anyone paying attention knows that President Obama pledged to bring our troops home from Iraq as
soon as it was expedient, and only with the advice of military leaders. He is doing exactly as he said he would, as well as working to expand our operations in Afghanistan, where anyone paying attention would know there has been an upswing in Taliban violence. Bush gets credit for ignoring FBI warnings about suspect activity prior to 9/11, then beginning a preemptive war against a country that had done nothing to us. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you could explain to us why Iraq was attacked, and the Saudi royal family maintained close ties with the Bush
family despite that fact? Some, however, excel at attacks but are not so adept at defense.
Bin Laden had been expelled from Saudi Arabia along with his band of brothers. The government there is moderate compared to other Islamic states. Iran, Iraq and North Korea have openly stated they want to kill us. Afganistan was the initial target. Iraq expelled the UN inspectors and moved all the WMDs out of the country because they knew we were coming. If we attacked instead of talking about it we would have found them and W would have been a hero. I fault him for a poor choice in defense secretaries.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Bin Laden had been expelled from Saudi Arabia along with his band of brothers. The government there is moderate compared to other Islamic states. Iran, Iraq and North Korea have openly stated they want to kill us. Afganistan was the initial target. Iraq expelled the UN inspectors and moved all the WMDs out of the country because they knew we were coming. If we attacked instead of talking about it we would have found them and W would have been a hero. I fault him for a poor choice in defense secretaries.
Where are they now?
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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Where are they now?
Well hidden in countries that support Hussein's ethnic background. You can look it your self and become more educated. When the UN inspectors got too close he expelled them. Saddam had all the pieces, but just not put together. He gassed his own people!!! Do you not think he would have done the same to us once Russia sold him rocket or missile that could deliver it to us. He admitted it!!! go here and learn something
Truth About Iraq WMD Uncovered,Then Covered Up Again (Discovery Blog)
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