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Old 06-03-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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The fact that it is biased, whether one direction or the other, is enough to dismiss it as a legitimate source. If they don't publish their data gathering algorithm, I'm not interested in seeing the results.
That's ridiculous. Think of what you are saying:
You dismiss a poll by an organization which has an excellent reputation. Their poll results indicate that most Palestinians support murder. And your reason for dismissing is that the organization is biased - IN FAVOR OF THE PALESTINIANS!
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Old 06-03-2009, 07:39 PM
 
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OK, you made a statement as though it's fact. It's really just off the top of your head, isn't it? WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

The FACT is that the majority of Palestinians support the TARGETING of unarmed civilians. Unlike you, I do have a source:
FactsOfIsrael.com: Poll: Majority of Palestinians support homicide/suicide bombings and wish for the destruction of the State of Israel

And BTW, the Palestinian population is 98.7% Muslim and the few Christians left are being persecuted in Palestinian-controlled areas. Palestine’s Christians Continue to Suffer Persecution
Based on video below does not seem like Christians are only being persecuted by Palestinians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIt...eature=related
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Based on video below does not seem like Christians are only being persecuted by Palestinians.


YouTube - Jewish Hate Caught on tape
Unfortunately, this attitude of hatred is rampant against any non-Jews. "Nazis"! Their sense of entitlement that the land is given to them by a God they obviously have no respect for!
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:45 AM
 
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"Islamist-controlled" Palestinian Authority burns down Christian village,
in the words and testimony of the Christians themselves

YouTube - Palestinian Christians Face Persecution
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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I know of few people who believe Hamas wishes to live in peace. Palestinian Christians and Muslim citizens not belonging to Hamas want to.
That is the sad thing. Most of the people in that region, Jews, Palestinians, etc... want to live in peace. It is once again the extremists that control the debate and make the policy. Moderates are left out of the picture. Kind of sounds like American politics when I think about it that way.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:54 AM
 
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Palestinians attack and destroy Christian schools and churches in Gaza

YouTube - Christian in Gaza
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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That is the sad thing. Most of the people in that region, Jews, Palestinians, etc... want to live in peace. It is once again the extremists that control the debate and make the policy. Moderates are left out of the picture. Kind of sounds like American politics when I think about it that way.
Muslims in the region who want to live in peace and who befriend Jews are quickly labeled "collaborators" and are threatened or murdered by the prevailing majority. This is something that people outside the area do not understand, and that some people here and elsewhere wish to conceal. Therefore, "making peace" with Israel is, for many Palestinians, literally a matter of death at the hands of their own people. There are Jews in Israel who do not approve of befriending Muslims, but at least they won't kill you for it. Herein lies the fundamental difference between Muslim and Jewish cultures in the Middle East.

I have lived in Israel for several years and split my time between there and the states. I know what I'm talking about.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Muslims in the region who want to live in peace and who befriend Jews are quickly labeled "collaborators" and are threatened or murdered by the prevailing majority. This is something that people outside the area do not understand, and that some people here and elsewhere wish to conceal. Therefore, "making peace" with Israel is, for many Palestinians, literally a matter of death at the hands of their own people. There are Jews in Israel who do not approve of befriending Muslims, but at least they won't kill you for it. Herein lies the fundamental difference between Muslim and Jewish cultures in the Middle East.

I have lived in Israel for several years and split my time between there and the states. I know what I'm talking about.
Agreed
They murder not only Israelis. They murder each other. Those they do not agree with are called collaborators. There is an amorality that runs through their society. If they treat their own people like this, how can they be expected to treat others?
Here are a couple of sad accounts of the ongoing murders of "collaborators":

YouTube - Hamas accused of killing Palestinian opponents - 08 Feb 09
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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Oh no!! Not the same Hamas that Rev. Wright welcomed to Obama's Trinity United Church??? Can't be.
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