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Old 06-04-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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That wasn't a response to the speech but a statement in anticipation of it. The NPR report that the statement appeared on is dated 5/26.
I know, SoccerSupporter pointed it out to me - thanks
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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So in other words, he basically stated what every person with any shred of common sense would say. While it sounds great, I'm not holding my breath that anything is going to change. The hatred runs too deep and people are simply too set in their beliefs to think otherwise. This is especially true when dealing with the Palestinian/Israeli situation. These people are brought up being taught to hate each other from Day 1. Their whole upbringing is based on propaganda and once adults, they have children and the entire cycle starts over again.

While I admire Obama (and every other Presidents) "attempts" to solving the problems in the ME, I simply think its a no win situation.
I know, but probably the only way to overcome that kind of deep mistrust is by actions speaking louder than words; I see no sign in his history that he wont stick to his guns as it were; the ideal he puts forth is the US policy, and if he sticks to its goals....

I cant argue this thing anymore! You know what I mean Snake.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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I see no sign in his history that he wont stick to his guns as it were; the ideal he puts forth is the US policy, and if he sticks to its goals....

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You've never seen him flip flop in his political history????? Ever? Really?

That there is some Strong Arse Koolaid people.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:45 AM
 
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It's an honest question. I don't see anything that's categorically false. What am I missing?
Oh, just about everything.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Oh, just about everything.
I will venture to say you believe in the 9/11 comspiracies
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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For God's sake. The world needs to be inspired toward positive achievement. The people in the mideast are "us," too.
Many of them will never see 'us'; for some it will always be "Us vs Them".
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I know, SoccerSupporter pointed it out to me - thanks
I was a few pages behind on the thread -- sorry for the repeat!
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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The depth of mistrust between the Arab and American worlds is deep and, as Obama said, a single speech will not heal it.

I felt this was a strong step in the right direction though. He knows his global upbringing and hybrid cultural background is an asset no other president has possessed, and he is using it to its full advantage. He speaks with an honesty often missing in politics, and that must be recognized by all sides on some level.

Let us hope his administration will plant a seed for eventual peace and collaboration. That is probably the best for which we can hope, and it is surely a noble cause.
Sort of a foot in the door of the Islamic/Arabic Old Boys Club?
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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Sort of a foot in the door of the Islamic/Arabic Old Boys Club?
lol, that's a funny thought
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I try....LOL

One thing that is missing is laughter. There is so much posturing, formality, and concern over what is perceived as weakness, that the politicians forget who they ultimately impact -- the children. They could learn so much by bringing the children together.

My youngest made a new friend at school. His name? Husain. They talked about frogs and bugs, about teachers and favorite subjects. Visually they were opposites raven hair, brown eyes and cafe au lait skin compared to blonde, blue and pale skin. They didn't see that. They didn't care about who went to Mosque or Church. Husain's mom wore traditional attire while I wore jeans and a sneakers. We are from worlds apart but share the love for our children.

It might sound far-fetched, but our leaders should set up some international play dates. Stop the hatred where it starts by showing the children how much alike they really are. The President's daughters would make adorable youthful ambassadors.
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