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Old 06-04-2009, 08:06 PM
 
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And how many abortion doctors are murdered per year by rightwing prostesters ? Are America's prisons overpopulated with rightwingers who murdered abortion doctors ?
More people than were killed by rallies..So why the angst with Glover? Isn't it free to protest?
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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That "nice needle" ends up costing millions of dollars in the end....almost every time.

Unless you want to take away due process, your other suggestions would each cost millions of dollars as well.
The only reason the death penalty costs so much to carry out today is because of the ridiculous roadblocks and mandatory appeals thrown into the process. Especially with today's technology and scientific evidence, we should be able to carry out the death penalty quickly and easily in cases where no doubt exists.

Take the Brian Nichols case here in Atlanta. This guy shot a judge, a court worker, a deputy Sheriff, and a federal agent....in cold blood and with many eye witnesses and camera footage...yet the inner city jury spared his life. Had they given him the death penalty, why could it not have been carried out immediately or at least after a reasonable appeal, assuming any grounds for appeals existed.

There is absolutely no reason for these sentences to wait 15 - 20 years with nonesense motions and hail Mary appeals. Reasonable appeals should be granted, but only if legal grounds exist.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Look at the many cases where people sitting on death row have been proved innocent through DNA and other evidence. Now if that many have been proved innocent since the discovery of DNA markers, think of how many more innocent people are still sitting on death row and just imagine how many innocent people have been put to death throughout the many centuries. Why is it any less murder of an innocent person if the system does it than if a mad man does it? I'm all for life in prison without the possibility of parole....for killers AND for those who harm children. But that way they would at least still be alive if proven innocent. I also think it should be mandatory to test the DNA whenever there is any present.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The only reason the death penalty costs so much to carry out today is because of the ridiculous roadblocks and mandatory appeals thrown into the process.
I'm well aware. The actual three-drug cocktail only costs about $50-$100.

The appeals process is necessary. Keeping them alive for several years is somewhat necessary as well (although the main reason they are kept alive for so long is the appeals) given all the innocent people who have been freed from death rows around the nation.

The simplest and cheapest thing to do would be to replace the DP with an automatic sentence of LWOP (life without parole).
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:01 PM
 
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More people than were killed by rallies
Quit spinning and answer my question, how many abortion doctors are murdered per year by rightwingers ? I want specific numbers. Do you have any statistics ?
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