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Old 06-04-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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With Florence, Colorado hosting a SuperMax Federal Prison resident’s have little to worry about. Among the residents, Zacarias Moussaoui, known as the 20th hijacker. So do would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid and Ramzi Yousef, who tried to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993. Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski also calls the SuperMax home.
Quite frankly I’d like to see the Detainees find resident in Alabama, give Shelby something to whine about…


Where to put Guantanamo prisoners? They're welcome in Colorado -- chicagotribune.com
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Gitmo is like a country club compared to Supermax. Supermax is punishment for prisoners that have no reason to behave (so they don't) when they're in a maximum security prison with other inmates. Supermax is torture...prisoners are kept in their 7x12 foot cells alone (solitary confinement) for 23 hours a day with one hour for exercise alone in another cell that's not much bigger. The only human contact they get is with the staff.


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Old 06-04-2009, 11:06 PM
 
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There is a reason the republicans think the prisoners will run free. They are afraid they will be given a fair trial and no evidence will be presented against them. How can you convict a school child who was apprehended from his classroom? You can't really use the confession obtained after years of torture. There is no evidence so none can be presented.

The problem is that these innocent people have been tortured so long, that is natural to expect they will want revenge. Since they didn't do anything wrong, how can they be held? If we let them go, what will happen. They must be pretty upset with the US.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Here
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There is a reason the republicans think the prisoners will run free. They are afraid they will be given a fair trial and no evidence will be presented against them. How can you convict a school child who was apprehended from his classroom? You can't really use the confession obtained after years of torture. There is no evidence so none can be presented.

The problem is that these innocent people have been tortured so long, that is natural to expect they will want revenge. Since they didn't do anything wrong, how can they be held? If we let them go, what will happen. They must be pretty upset with the US.
Check out the brains on this guy.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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There is a reason the republicans think the prisoners will run free. They are afraid they will be given a fair trial and no evidence will be presented against them. How can you convict a school child who was apprehended from his classroom? You can't really use the confession obtained after years of torture. There is no evidence so none can be presented.

The problem is that these innocent people have been tortured so long, that is natural to expect they will want revenge. Since they didn't do anything wrong, how can they be held? If we let them go, what will happen. They must be pretty upset with the US.
The majority of those imprisoned were not caught by US forces, but rather Warlords from Pakistan, Syria, N Iraq etc who were interested in bounties. Holding these individuals for years without charging them, denying them access to a lawyer, or any other legal process surely made them hate America. Mission Accomplished.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Got anything intelligent to say?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:32 PM
 
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Check out the brains on this guy.
you kind of scared, ain't ya?
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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There is a reason the republicans think the prisoners will run free. They are afraid they will be given a fair trial and no evidence will be presented against them. How can you convict a school child who was apprehended from his classroom? You can't really use the confession obtained after years of torture. There is no evidence so none can be presented.

The problem is that these innocent people have been tortured so long, that is natural to expect they will want revenge. Since they didn't do anything wrong, how can they be held? If we let them go, what will happen. They must be pretty upset with the US.
I don't normally say things like this but, in case it seems appropriate....are you out of your mind? Innocent school children that have been tortured for years and want revenge on the U.S. I have never heard the most liberal of liberals make an assessment of Gitmo like that.

You make comments like this as though you were actually there and have first hand knowledge. They were upset with the U.S. when we put them there.....that's why we did.
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:30 PM
 
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I don't normally say things like this but, in case it seems appropriate....are you out of your mind? Innocent school children that have been tortured for years and want revenge on the U.S. I have never heard the most liberal of liberals make an assessment of Gitmo like that.

You make comments like this as though you were actually there and have first hand knowledge. They were upset with the U.S. when we put them there.....that's why we did.
If you have something to say, go ahead and spit it out.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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There is a reason the republicans think the prisoners will run free. They are afraid they will be given a fair trial and no evidence will be presented against them.
How do you collect physical evidence during a war? For example: Do you call in CSI: Afghanistan? Do you rope off the area near a roadside bomb to protect the crime scene? Maybe you go door to door and see if there were any witnesses? And if there were, maybe you bring the witnesses to the US to testify as the NY Times prints the witnesses' names ensuring their family back home gets slaughtered.

And when the perps are on trial, I'm sure their lawyers will make sure we hear all about their poor backgrounds, the bad ozone level in their town or lack of available healthy food in their diet, how images from al-jazeera TV news made them violent, how before they became suicide bombers they just made prayer rugs to sell in the town market and like good boys always went to the store for their moms (or escorted her to one), how they sang in the "choir" in their mosque, and how they had to join the Taliban/Hamas/Hezbollah/etc. because of peer pressure in their neighborhood.

I'm thinking it will be tough for their lawyers to blame drug company CEOs so that one is out.
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