This happened on Bush's watch.......

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by saganista

What was the claim again? Oh yeah...

WOW AND IT TOOK hussein obama ONLY FOUR MONTHS TO BEAT THEIR RECORD AND OUT SPEND THE ACCUMULATION OF EVERY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.

That's actual spending already accomplished in four months that exceeds the level of all spending in US history, but you've tried to cite a projection of deficits that extends over the next ten years. Do you understand the difference between these two concepts?

Sadly -- and just as was pointed out -- the original claim is not even close to true.

So you are fine with the projected deficit? Got it.

[walidm]

Originally Posted by Atilla

Solutions I don't like. For crying out loud manwhat solutuions. I can present a total drunken fool with enough resources and for a while it may take on the appearance that a total progressive change has occurred. For a short while money can fix a lot of things. When the money is all gone and spent and thrown away at non productive gimmickry,...then what? You are going to see inflationary trends in the short run and real pain in the intermediate run. They are just .issing money away friend. There is no cure in this juveniles solutions.

Did you read the article associated with this thread's op?

I'd say you're ignoring obvious problems and, consequently, the solutions because you refuse to either - accept the ineptitude of the offender based on some preconceived notion, because of lack of knowledge, or perhaps deliberate intention.


i.e. We've spent millions on a mess hall that we didn't need, will only use for two years and are close to abandoning, while spending millions to upfit another.

Construction of a $30 million dining facility at a U.S. base in Iraq is scheduled to be completed Dec. 25. But the decision to build it was based on bad planning and botched paperwork.

The project is too far along to stop, making the mess hall a future monument to the waste and inefficiency plaguing the war effort, according to an independent panel investigating contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In its first report to Congress, the Wartime Contracting Commission presents a bleak assessment of how tens of billions of dollars have been spent since 2001. The 111-page report, obtained by The Associated Press, documents poor management, weak oversight, and a failure to learn from past mistakes as recurring themes in wartime contracting.

Are you seriously telling us - you don't see a problem, a solution and a potential for oversight that could reduce fraud and increase efficiency to the tune of millions?

Interesting.

[Atilla]

I don't think there is any question every administration throws money away. This is how they maintain their power. The thing I find amusing is the convenient use of statistics that people use to justify any end.
"Anyone who looks through enough statistics will eventually find numbers that seem to confirm a given vision. Often, the same set of statistics contains other numbers that seem to confirm diametrically opposite conclusions. The same is true of anecdotal facts. That is why evidence is different from mere data, whether numerical or verbal."

This is why we have false messiahs such as Ralph Nader and Al Gore.

Yes sir, George Bush was as good a spending democrat as any president in history. The current "evidence" exists, that his successor is already four times the loose cannon and he hasn't even gotten around to health care yet.

History should have taught us all, the politically left and the politically right, that it is extremes that get us into trouble. There is no greater extremist than the one we now have in office. There will be a price to pay for this degree of extremism. You play with statistics and who bares those statistics all you want...the "evidence "is in play.