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View Poll Results: "Gay gene" bill: Support or oppose?
Support 12 50.00%
Oppose 11 45.83%
Other/Undecided 1 4.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-07-2009, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY for now. Hanover, New Hampshire come the fall.
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I posed this question in another thread and decided it'd make a decent topic of its own. I'll just copy what I posted there.

So let's say then, theoretically, that they were to one day discover the specific genetic cause of homosexuality. Let's also say that they were able to find a way to alter it before birth(or even during the individuals lifetime) so as to prevent the expression of any homosexual traits.

Let's say that legislation is coming up in Congress now pertaining to this very subject. The bill will allow hospitals to perform procedures in order to identify the gene during pre-natal care and it will also allow them, with parental consent, to go ahead with the procedure should the "gay gene" be identified. The bill also contains provisions allowing living homosexuals to, if they so choose, undergo a similar procedure whereby doctors would be able to limit the expression of homosexual traits, resulting in a heterosexual individual.
Would you support that bill, or would you oppose it?

I pose this question because the debate always tends to be about whether or not it is a choice. I have personally believed that it is something people are born with, but what would happen if technology suddenly made that debate irrelevant and created a decision of some sort?

Notes: The procedure would result in a heterosexual individual. Tests have indicated that there are no significant side effects and that individuals who have undergone the procedure live healthy, normal lives. It is also not a government funded initiative-this bill will only make it legal for hospitals to carry out the proceduire.

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Old 06-07-2009, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Mississauga
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Oh really who cares what causes it - at the end of the day if ppl wanna go chasing like tail than opposite tail - who cares - like ppl need to get a life.

I say support equal rights for like tail chasers and opposite tail chaser - man there are enough fish in the sea...just stay away from my tuna!
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:46 PM
 
Location: southern california
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you are looking at a whole lot more divorces then aren't you.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY for now. Hanover, New Hampshire come the fall.
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Oh really who cares what causes it - at the end of the day if ppl wanna go chasing like tail than opposite tail - who cares - like ppl need to get a life.
Given the sheer amount of controversy surrounding homosexuality and whether it is a result of nurture(environment, culture, etc) or nature, I would say that plenty of people care and it is a question worth asking.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:48 PM
 
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Given the sheer amount of controversy surrounding homosexuality and whether it is a result of nurture(environment, culture, etc) or nature, I would say that plenty of people care and it is a question worth asking.
This is my whole point - ppl are too enveloped in controversy and the other guys life... ppl should worry more about their own house than the guy next door.. as long as my neigbour doesn't steal my beer I won't steal his and why should i care what beer he drinks or who he drinks it with as long as I and he respects the fact that not everyone likes the same beer- ya feel me? Man its all so simple.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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I see no problem with this bill.

If you support abortion, then you should have no problem supporting this bill either. A mother should be able to decide what she wants to do with the fetus in her body.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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I wouldn't support having the government fund such a thing. I don't think I'd support it at all in the way you've described it. All you said was that it would "limit" or "prevent the expression of homosexual traits". So you'd be creating someone with no sexual desires? If you said that it would be replaced with heterosexual desires and the government wasn't funding it, then sure, I could get behind that as long as there were no bad side effects to the procedure.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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This is my whole point - ppl are too enveloped in controversy and the other guys life... ppl should worry more about their own house than the guy next door.. as long as my neigbour doesn't steal my beer I won't steal his and why should i care what beer he drinks or who he drinks it with as long as I and he respects the fact that not everyone likes the same beer- ya feel me? Man its all so simple.
Alright, but look at it this way. Within the scenario I provided, parents will be involved, as will families. Homosexuals themselves, in fact, would be able to make a decision.
The whole "you stay over there, and I'll stay over here" thing works when the issue doesn't directly affect you, but wouldn't you at least be curious to know how future parents of gays and, possibly, even gays themselves would react when faced with such a decision?
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY for now. Hanover, New Hampshire come the fall.
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I wouldn't support having the government fund such a thing. I don't think I'd support it at all in the way you've described it. All you said was that it would "limit" or "prevent the expression of homosexual traits". So you'd be creating someone with no sexual desires? If you said that it would be replaced with heterosexual desires, then sure, I could get behind that as long as there were no bad side effects to the procedure.
I've edited my orginal post to convey some of your own concerns. The procedure would essentially result in another heterosexual individual, and the government would not fund it. The bill would simply make the procedure legal for hospitals to perform.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:56 PM
 
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Alright, but look at it this way. Within the scenario I provided, parents will be involved, as will families. Homosexuals themselves, in fact, would be able to make a decision.
The whole "you stay over there, and I'll stay over here" thing works when the issue doesn't directly affect you, but wouldn't you at least be curious to know how future parents of gays and, possibly, even gays themselves would react when faced with such a decision?
The only jeans/genes we should be manipulating is the jeans on my lower body..

too many ethical problems associated with gene manipulation....
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