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Old 06-10-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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"We are 9 trillion in debt with bush, Obama made it 11 trillion." -- seriously, do you think he's just been spending for the malicious joy of it? Im sure some of you believe this. If it hadnt been for the bailouts -- and th enational debt debt clock hit $11 T in March 2009 btw -- his spending would be entirely reasonable. He stepped up to tackle that and the shameful neglect of our domestic infrastructure and education - he's not being a coward, the way prev admins have been.
The massive deficit spending is the conclusion of a broken campaign promise. At this point, only apologists support this level of spending, or those with their eyeballs glued to cable news.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The massive deficit spending is the conclusion of a broken campaign promise. At this point, only apologists support this level of spending, or those with their eyeballs glued to cable news.
OK, just for funsies.

We already know that Ron Paul would have let the country go into bankruptcy and we would be in a depression now up to our eyelashes.

What would John McCain have done differently fro9m Obama, and what do you think the results would have been?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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The massive deficit spending is the conclusion of a broken campaign promise. At this point, only apologists support this level of spending, or those with their eyeballs glued to cable news.
The financial crisis only had built up to the point of an undeniable and an unavoidable issue in Sept 2008, after the campaign had been going on rather a long time. Look at the early campaign speeches and topics of all of them, even mcCain and Obama before Sept-Oct. (I dont think there was even time to teach Palin something sensible to say about it.) Of what campaign promise do you speak.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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We are 9 trillion in debt with bush, Obama made it 11 trillion.
We are in Iraq and Obama sends in more troops. If you can explain those 2 moves I would gladly give Obama a chance.
I just now see there was a challenge in your post! So are you convinced?
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Government exists because the people exist, the rights are held to the people not the government . I find it funny how you think government is providing welfare for the people. Really how?
It is not funny to me how you think. Instead of fixing issues the people that run the government, you show greater hatred for the government something fundamental to a democracy.

Based on your arguments thus far, it is clear to me that you've a very limited understanding of welfare, but have extreme view against an institution established by the people to govern this country, for its welfare (yes, I used that term again).
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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OK, just for funsies.

We already know that Ron Paul would have let the country go into bankruptcy and we would be in a depression now up to our eyelashes.

The Federal Reserve Bank is NOT the country - or, at least it is not supposed to be.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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Obama was allowed to run because he was going to be another Bush. Even moreso than McCain who was more unpredictable.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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Obama was allowed to run because he was going to be another Bush. Even moreso than McCain who was more unpredictable.
Yeah, they really didn't HAVE anything on McCain.
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